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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. GladiatoRowdy

    GladiatoRowdy Member

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    Actually, you want far fewer people than that to vote, as evidenced by your own words, echoed in my sig.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    Oh well.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    wow. i didn't realize that.

    It's so weird for him to put down secretaries and janitors when his logic is clearly superseded by both.
     
  4. basso

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    this is rather brill.

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  5. thadeus

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    basso, could you please stop making your videos giant-sized? There's no need for it, and they disrupt the thread. Most people never watch the stuff you upload anyway.

    I'm asking nicely here. Do you get paid for this or something?
     
  6. mc mark

    mc mark Member

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  7. Rashmon

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    Uh oh...

    U.S. voters see Medicare as a top election issue - poll

    By David Morgan

    WASHINGTON, Aug 16 (Reuters) - Medicare has become a top healthcare issue in the U.S. presidential election, surpassing the controversy over President Barack Obama's healthcare law, according to a poll conducted just as Republican Mitt Romney pushed the issue to the forefront of the campaign with his choice of running mate.

    On Saturday, Romney announced he had picked Representative Paul Ryan, a lawmaker whose plan to cut billions of dollars from the U.S. deficit included transforming the costly, but popular, healthcare program for the elderly.

    The nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation said on Thursday that 73 percent of respondents polled in the days around the announcement described Medicare as "very important" or "extremely important" to their votes. That included large majorities of Democrats, independents and Republicans.

    The Kaiser foundation said a separate survey conducted a week earlier found that 58 percent of adults - including 55 percent of Republicans - favored keeping Medicare as it is today with all seniors receiving the same insurance benefits.

    Those findings could have implications for Romney and Ryan, and their party, as they battle the Obama campaign over Ryan's plan for Medicare.

    Ryan has proposed turning it into a program that provides future retirees with a fixed payment for purchasing private coverage or traditional Medicare, arguing that having seniors manage their own healthcare will help bring down costs.

    Critics say the plan would make the elderly responsible for spending thousands more dollars per capita each year on their healthcare.

    Only 36 percent of adults - and 39 percent of Republicans - said they favored a plan along the lines proposed by Ryan, according to the July 25-Aug. 5 poll conducted by Kaiser and the Washington Post. That data had a margin of error of 2 percentage points.

    In an intensifying war of words, Democrats are attacking the Ryan plan with the claim that it would "end Medicare as we know it." Meanwhile, Republicans accuse the Obama administration of cutting $716 billion from Medicare to pay for "Obamacare," which is unpopular with many voters.

    The Kaiser tracking poll, conducted August 7-12, suggests that Obamacare may not hold as much sway with voters as Medicare. The healthcare reform law ranked fifth as a healthcare issue, with 59 percent of adults calling it "very" or "extremely" important.

    Medicare shared the top ranking among campaign healthcare issues with medical costs, including the price of health insurance, the poll showed.

    About half the respondents said they lacked a basic understanding of Romney's policies on healthcare. But 53 percent said they trusted Obama to make the right decisions about the future of the healthcare reform law, versus 40 percent who said they trusted Romney.

    The Kaiser tracking poll has a 3 percentage point sampling error. (Editing by Michele Gershberg and Xavier Briand)
     
  8. mc mark

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    WE'D TELL YOU, BUT THEN WE'D LOSE!

    Romney Advisers: Detailing Our Medicare Plan Would Be Suicidal

    The Romney strategy is simple: Hammer away at Obama for proposing cuts to Medicare (which is a lie) and promise, in vague, aspirational ways, to protect the program for future retirees — but don’t get pulled into a public discussion of the most unpopular parts of the Ryan plan.
     
  9. MojoMan

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    That has to be the dumbest poll I have ever seen. Everyone knows the economy is the most important issue to everyone. Anyways Medicare is a good issue for Romney that I am sure Obama wants to stay away from.
     
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  12. MojoMan

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    Obama be nimble
    Obama be quick
    Obama be gone
    November 6
     
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  13. thadeus

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    Great poem! Do you have any more?
     
  14. rhadamanthus

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    Mojoman also resurfaces. Yay election season.
     
  15. napalm06

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    lmao this actually made me laugh out loud for some reason.
     
  16. Deckard

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    Not bad, but it needs a little work, don't you think?


    Obama is nimble
    Obama is quick
    Obama will win
    On November 6th
     
  17. Nook

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    What fantasy world do you live in. Obama gladly would debate Medicare with Romney and Ryan.
     
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    Romney isn't proposing the Ryan plan.
     
  20. mc mark

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    My Medicare plan is ‘the same if not identical’ to Ryan’s

    “Actually, Paul Ryan and my plan for Medicare, I think, is the same if not identical–it’s probably close to identical,” Romney told WBAY’s Matt Smith.



    But you may be right Commodore; Romney could change his mind depending on what day it is or who he's talking too.
     

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