The results are in: Voter ID Fraud a myth - but we knew that

Why would you even debate in a thread about Voter ID laws about registration fraud?

It's like debating abortion in a thread about---

oh wait.

 

You've shown zero reason to believe there is a trend to a rise in the rate of voter fraud.

It's possible that it could happen.

It's also possible that space aliens could land tomorrow and start an infiltration operation to secretly take over our planet.

There has been the same amount of evidence presented for one happening as the other.

Making a law that has been shown to keep legally registered voters from being able to vote based on a remote possibility of something bad happening in the future isn't the way laws are made, have been made, or should be made.

There also has been a strategy of passing these laws for the sole purpose of keeping certain groups of legal voters from voting admitted to by members of GOP leadership.

 

It is exactly this type of foresight I have grown to expect from our noble GOP leaders. The same GOP that brought us mission accomplished in Iraq, for instance. The same GOP that has decided that corporations know more about the planet we live on than our scientists. The same GOP that promotes the economy by giving the money to the wealthy and letting it trickle down to the poor. The same GOP that has determined that property rights should be defended at gunpoint, unless it is the property of your own body. The ones that have decided that we should declare war on various nebulous entities such as "terror" and "drugs" without considering the consequences or bothering to define such terms. The same that fight government regulation as evil unless it is government regulation of a cause they support; in that instance it becomes absolutely necessary. The ones who consider the constitution a sacred document unless it contradicts their position.

The ones who consider ideology and nationalism as paramount to facts and objective reasoning.

The ones who decide that if you have a different point of view you must not love your country.

The ones who are quick to put others' children into battle for corporate causes while their own inherit fortunes and lie/cheat/steal their way to political office; only to lie/cheat/steal some more.

 

Why do you hate America?

 

Cause it stinks and lately my Big Macs come out cold...

 

Debate? What debate? Look at the OP... it doesn't raise an issue for debate; it's a beat-down on Republicans right out of the gate. It denies there is an issue.

You guys won't even discuss the issue without imagining how it will hurt the Democratic Party. The majority of Americans seem to want it. If you don't project some kind of paranoid implication, there is nothing wrong with the idea of proving ID in order to have the vote if such ID is not onerous to acquire.

 

1. MIssion Accomplished: You mean like "Fast and Furious" or closing Gitmo?

2. Giving Money to the Wealthy: Are you referring to people wanting to keep the money they've earned? You call that "givng them money?"

3. declare war on various nebulous entities such as "terror": pretty sure that was a bi-partisan declaration.

4. Without considering the consequences: again "fast and furious?"

5. while their own inherit fortunes and lie/cheat/steal their way to political office: are you talking about the Kennedys here?

No doubt that our politics suck but you have Demo-Myopism going here.

 

There is something wrong with voter ID laws because it's been shown that it will keep legal voters from being able to vote.

The article showed there isn't a problem with fraud at the ballot and used valid research to back it up.

The only thing paranoid is the idea that based on zero current trends that voter fraud will become a valid issue. That's paranoid and it's been pointed out in this thread that for many of the people proposing the laws that wasn't a concern for them. The only concern was keeping legal voters who have different political philosophies from voting.

 

1. program started under Bush, and closing Gitmo was blocked by Republicans in congress.

2. No, it means people who don't pay their fare share in the tough economic times while others are made to sacrifice.

3. Probably right.

4. Fast and Furious was a congress of the types of programs started under Bush, but is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

5. Which Kennedy children do you have evidence that have lied/stolen/and cheated their way to office?

 

aww, Mr. Past-Future Logic is back I see. And keeping his food down. This is good!

 

1 "Administration officials lay blame for the failed initiative on Congress, including Democrats who deserted the president, sometimes in droves. The debate, they said, became suffused with fear — fear that transferring detainees to American soil would create a genuine security threat, fear that closing Guantanamo would be electoral suicide. Some Democratic lawmakers pleaded with the White House not to press too hard, according to administration officials. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ht-to-close-it/2011/04/14/AFtxR5XE_story.html

2. Those people pay the bulk of the tax dollars collected and they pay according to the tax code. How is that not their fair share? So you do agree that it is their money and is not money given to them?

3.

4. There is no discussion at hand. Things were just thrown out that were meant to symbolize policy gone bad.

5. Let's start with President John F. Kennedy. His daddy bulldozed his way to the presidency. His daddy became wealthy running hooch and the Kennedy financial legacy is legendary. Then there's Ted Kennedy and his cover-up of the events at Chappaquiddick. Bobby Kennedy seems to have had the most integrity of those boys and might have become president. Nevertheless, they all had them a Rich Daddy!

 

AN ACT To enforce the fifteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That this Act shall be known as the "Voting Rights Act of 1965."

SEC. 2. No voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure shall be imposed or applied by any State or political subdivision to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color.

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"... on account of race or color."

If everyone has to have voter ID, how is this relevant?

 

I bet that's exactly what Whitey said when they were charging poll taxes and moving polling stations out of poor neighborhoods.

 

Actually voting is more precious than driving which is why we have lower standard for voting so more people have access to it than driving. Again one is a right the other is a privilege.

And your evidence for that illegal immigrants are actually causing massive voter fraud?

Drinking is not a right but a privilege.

You do understand why we restrict rights to minors? Would you be fine allowing your kids the right to enter contracts without your approval? That is a right we restrict to adults.

 

I've put you back on ignore, giddy, and crap like this is one of the reasons why. Your post is a load of bull**** having nothing to do with the topic. All you are doing is slandering a prominent political family because it apparently turns you on to do so.

You ardently post nothing. Good for you.

 

And I get accused of throwing around platitudes?

 

Somebody tell deckard that he is blindly raging, please!

IGNORE is for the gutless.

 

Concerning #2, no they need to STEALING. When you pay a tax rate less than half of what the poor pay, and you make 50X what the poor make... that is theft.

 

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