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Question for gun control advocates

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. CometsWin

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    It affects other people but it doesn't murder them in a movie theater. Everything has some effect on other people.

    Me doing anything responsibly doesn't kill people, good point.
     
  2. ILoveTheRockets

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    All these current shootings are in places with strict gun laws. Schools, the city of movie theater... Criminals acting as terrorist to scare the masses. Gun control is NOT the answer.
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    LOL, Sam can't even afford the M1A2, what do you also have an iPhone 4?




    Liberals take note, gun rights advocates like myself realize that conservatives and liberals alike want to make us criminals. Basso outing himself here.

    Brady was shot with a 22 revolver that no one is trying to ban (including Brady group) you don't need to align yourself with gun control to be a liberal.
     
  4. ILoveTheRockets

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    also home invasions, 90% of the time involving more than 1 criminal involves some type of assault rifle.

    Banning assault rifles is not the answer either.
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    Abortion rights advocates don't want their rights infringed at all. Making senseless laws requiring some form of pre-abortion ultrasound exam, or outlawing "partial-birth abortions" gets them more angry than us.
     
  6. lpbman

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    A 3D printer and a CNC and you're an arms manufacturer. Add an adapter to an oil filter and you have a silencer.

    Regulators, you're too late.
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    No barrel = no gun


    fail
     
  8. ILoveTheRockets

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    I wonder if people would want a ban of muscle cars if some guy flipped out, got in a IROC and ran over a bunch of kids crossing the road when school let out.

    Some peoples logic baffles me.
     
  9. Brandyon

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    Drugs are used to change individual percepticion. Guns are used to stop individuals from perceiving anything from that point forward.

    Regardless, I still think that all of the money used to fight for or against guns control would be better served as funds for mental health research, and improving early diagnostic methods of detecting a disposition to violent behavior.

    You can't blame police for not taking the psychiatrist of James Holmes seriously, because the field lacks a certain level of credibility.
     
  10. lpbman

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    Well I guess you could regulate barrels, but button rifling machines are relatively simple and cheap to build. Any idiot can pull a button through a barrel as long as you have quality control of your stock material.
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    I think silencers should be legal -- why should I ruin my hearing because some jackass breaks into my house?
     
  12. Bandwagoner

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    suppressors being so heavily regulated (same tax form as a machine gun) is asinine. Shooting ranges are a major PITA for miles because of completely unnecessary noise pollution.


    Don't try to make one with a oil filter though, you will get a face full of blowback. Not fun. Shooting a suppressed M16 was bad enough for me, I can't imagine shooting something where it is DESIGNED to blow hot gas in your face.
     
  13. ILoveTheRockets

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    I feel the same, but I think it should stay how it is concerning the law. When a company mass produces products, a defunct is going to appear. You don't want a defunct suppressors floating around in stores and cause a high rate of "kabooms". That's bad for the gun industry.
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    That is the dumbest logic ever. Suppressors are less critical than barrels & chambers RE: kabooms.
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    Last time I was at the range (Red's indoor - concrete everything) the fella next to me starts firing his cannon or elephant rifle. The concussion wrapped around the wall and would hit you like a leaf blower -- you could literally feel the shock waves. Not sure a silencer would work on whatever he was shooting, but it wouldn't hurt in that environment.
     
  16. ILoveTheRockets

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    pressure from inside the barrel is released a lot slower than without one. If you get poorly built suppressor, it is very possible to see kabooms at a higher rate. Especially if the law was laxed and more and more people were able to obtain one. Just an opinion though.

    We don't see any companies making them cheap now, but if the laws were more laxed on it, I'm sure we would see companies jump on the suppressor industry making them more and more affordable by the month.

    You don't want a cheap suppressor. by any means. Nor do you want a suppressor made in a backroom shop with poor quality machinery producing these products.
     
  17. Space Ghost

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    Murders related to drug use kills more people than mass shootings.

    Im ok with anyone using/doing/having/ect responsibly. Most people can not do hard drugs responsibly.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    Opinion based on a total lack of understanding. The critical pressures of a barrel and chamber cease to exist once the bullet comes out of the barrel. The rate at which pressures, dramatically less than that, fall off is irrelevant to over-pressure failures.
     
  19. ILoveTheRockets

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    If you have a defunct suppressor, wouldn't it cause obstruction to the bullet, if the suppressor was off on measurements?

    I might be missing something, but wouldn't that either A. cause the suppressor to banana bend, or B. cause a kaboom from pressure not being able to escape? IF you have a defunct suppressor.

    the pressure inside suppressor & gun have to match numbers for a proper discharge, correct?
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    The worst that can happen is a baffle strike. It wouldn't cause a kaboom. A kaboom needs something that keeps the bullet in the barrel.

    It will destroy the baffle and you would need a new suppressor and possibly a new suppressor mount.
    I dunno WTF you are even are trying to say here.
     

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