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Morey on SportsTalk 790

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. heypartner

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    good summary about the offer sheets being irrelevant. I think this last part is Rockets-centric, though.

    Now we know the price. The price was this year's #15 pick (Harkless) and 3 futures. Plus, the whole Afflalo thing.

    At this point, I have to say to myself that we either got outbid (we don't know Morey's actual offer) possibly because they like Afflalo more than Martin and Harkless more than we think, or for some reason either the Laker's or Magic did not want us involved.

    One thing that I'd like to know, I'm curious why some of the picks cannot happen at all until a few years out. I'm thinking the Magic don't want the Laker's pick to materialize until after Kobe retires. But I'm fuzzy on the specifics of the years.
     
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    Philly owes their 2013 1st to the Heat, so the earliest pick they could have traded was 2015, which is what the Magic ended up getting.

    Denver could have traded their 2013, but traded the lower of their '14 1st and the Knicks 2014.
    I'm guessing the Magic may have asked for the '14 pick, as their roster -- in some ways similar to the Rockets -- is filled with young players. Adding two rookies next year might have been overkill and while you could have packaged picks to trade up, the 2013 draft is supposed to suck anyway.
    The Nuggets, I'm guessing agreed to send the Magic their 2014 1st, on the condition that the Magic would be contend with the the lower of the two picks (DEN/NYK) the Nuggets own.

    The Lakers owe their 2013 & 2015 1st to the Suns (Nash trade), so the earliest pick they could have traded was the 2017 1st, which they ended up sending the Magic.
     
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    If this is true this league has officially gone to ****. The GM's job is to put the best product on the floor not be a p***y and get ****ed by a player that doesn't want to play for you.
     
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  4. houtown

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    My question to Morey would be what was he doing at the olympics during the most critical time during the offseason while Mitch Kupchak worked his tail off back home in LA? Not to say Morey is at fault, he probably could get the same work done in London as in Houston, but i feel its still a fare question.
     
  5. formido

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    What Morey should have done is got more teams involved like the Lakers did, even though Houston didn't need it. That would have meant more of the league's GM power on his side and less likely that Orlando would have accepted and inferior offer for non basketball reasons.
     
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    Cause apparently it was Dwight Howard or bust with him. We amniesytied Scola way too early , and blew up our team and started signing Asik's to 25 mil contracts ALL FOR THE HOPE of landing Howard. Philly just snuck right in and landed Bynum for cheap!!!!
     
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    How is it a "fare question" or even a "fair question" if you said it yourself that he could get the same work done?
     
  8. houtown

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    Yea, sorry about the mistake. I didn't recognize it until i posted the message.

    Well, i don't know whether he would've been able to get the same work done at London as to Houston. In theory, it seems that more efficient work could've be done in Houston, but i am no GM. It just seemed like a questionable time to go away to the olympics while the faith of the franchise hanged in the balance, and the Lakers GM was steadfast on getting a deal done. I like Morey, and assume he is highly motivated, but i question his commitment in this instance.
     
  9. NotInMyHouse

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    Had you been paying attention you'd know why Morey was in London. Your premise is silly.
     
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    We didn't want Bynum for the same package we offered for Dwight, simple as that. In fact I suspect that Morey didn't even want to give up a single asset for Bynum, he probably only wanted him if it's for free (like sign him as a FA). Morey must had some major concern in regards to Bynum. In fact, Philly really got Bynum for next to nothing. Apparently Bynum's much lesser regarded around league GMs than among fans.
     
  11. DAROckets

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    Because fans wouldn't be paying the millions upon millions of dollars after bynums knee is shot.
     
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    Paul Pierce was paid pretty handsomely after his torso was stabbed.
     
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  13. Verbatim

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    I congratulate Morey to sticking to principle rather than overplaying. I am sure if Morey went all in for D Howard he is a Very Unhappy Rocket today with a bad back and probably won't play for the year. Why do I say that? Easy, he is super excited to be with the Lakers and maybe back by January. He is sure to be dogging it here. Not saying Howard is a bad player. he is a superstar but his actions in Orlando tells you what kind of kid he is, yes, he is a big kid really, so I think his "bad back" would have kept him off the court for the year, then he either demands a trade or walks. Meanwhile, this team is out 2 of the 3 rookies, Dmo, Chandler and have 3 bad contracts and no lottery pick(s). That is not a recipe for success in this league.
     
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    How likely is it that in the next 10 years the Rockets will ever sign a free agent who is a top 3 player ?
     
  15. LewLLOYD

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    is there anyway to listen to a recording of the interview?
    or was it something you had to catch live?

    sorry if its already been asked.
     
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    As it turned out, nothing was relevant. We could have and were prepared to swallow JRich and Duhon. But it didn't matter. We could have put all our youngsters and picks up there and it wouldn't have mattered. Only thing that would have happened would Orlando would have looked even more foolish than they do now. This all swung on what Martens agreed to with Fegan back at last season's trade deadline.
     
  17. Verbatim

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    Why are you so sure about this? It could just as well be the GM of Magic looked at things differently than here. He may think he really got a better deal than the Rockets actual offer (which no one here know for sure).

    Ok I can't keep this up. The new GM got jobbed and Rockets continue to look for superstar. None are available in the near future so play the rookies and Lin.

    At least the Rockets lucked into Lin. Just imagine this team with your starting PG, Tony Douglas:)

    There is a very good chance Lin will be good. Better chance than anyone else they have now. GD is gone so can't wish him back, sorry.
    KL is now a lottery pick so no go there.

    I say Lin be nimble, Lin be quick, Lin jump over CP3 for the the Allstar gig. :)
     
  18. Spacemoth

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    Well if we could actually draft a guy who could be considered to be an up and coming superstar then more people would be willing to join him here.

    Miami and LA weren't just crap teams that superstars decided to turn into a champion. They had cornerstone pieces as well as big name management showing a proven ability to win and make all the moves a winning franchise would make. Same deal for Boston and San Antonio, which is why you'll always see vets signing at those programs for the minimum. For the Rockets to get back to that position, we need to grow our own talent and then work from there. There are no shortcuts.
     
  19. Joe Fan

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    Girl getting around.

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  20. roxxy

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    LMAO at these pictures. Particularly the last one. Probably the funniest storyline of the Olympics.
     

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