1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    Can you imagine?

    Romney has made his business career the central component of his campaign arguing that his business experience makes him a better choice to get the economy running again, And now he's whining about the attacks on his career/finances.

    the man is a joke and not fit for the presidency.
     
  2. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    21,310
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    I deserve to be the president who will fix the economy because I have a strong track record in my years of experience in business.

    Can we not talk about my career, businesses, and the taxes that I paid on the income I earned from them?

    LOL
     
  3. Zboy

    Zboy Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    27,234
    Likes Received:
    21,958
    Sounds more of a self-indictment on Romney's part.
     
  4. JeopardE

    JeopardE Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7,418
    Likes Received:
    246
    I can't stop laughing at this guy. He's applying for a job but he doesn't want anybody to look at his resume or background.

    At the rate he is going, he might end up turning out to be a worse candidate than Sarah Palin.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    15,608
    Likes Received:
    6,577
    Romney builds a private equity empire, in the process creating wealth for unions, pension plans, insurance companies, university endowments, etc (his investors) and also in the process generates thousands upon thousands of jobs and saves many companies. Out of 30 or so investments, the overwhelming majority are highly successful. Obama's dishonest campaign cherry picks the bad investments and tries to convince gullible voters who don't know anything about business (like what we see here in this thread) that Romney's entire career was spent making mistakes, offshoring jobs, killing women, etc. It's a dishonest smear campaign based on lies. You'd be upset if your successful career was mischaracterized in such a dishonest fashion.

    Meanwhile Obama's own career is simply laughable. Community organizer and senior lecturer at Chicago (not even a tenure track professor). The guy has never had to make a payroll, never created jobs, never learned the lessons that building and running a business brings with it. It shows in his lack of leadership and lack of economic judgment. Obama was groomed by party insiders to be a politician going all the way back to his Harvard days. Every step of the way he was assisted by political fixers, like Tony Rezko and Bill Ayers. Romney scratched and clawed his way to the top in the business world, earning every ounce of his success. You tell me which one is more respectable. Actually, I will amuse myself by the responses, since asking low information Obamabots how they would judge a business career is akin to asking Vince Young to critique calculus proofs.

    It says a lot about how Obama regards his own track record when he spends hundreds of millions of dollars falsely attacking Romney's sterling record. Not even Obama is buying into his hope and change anymore...
     
  6. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    Jorge can you recall the way Romney picked off his republican comrades during the primary? You remember Romney's ads during that time? So stop it with the sanctimonious whining. Nut up or shut up.
     
    #566 mc mark, Aug 10, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2012
  7. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/itB0vE6Na3M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  8. Zboy

    Zboy Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    27,234
    Likes Received:
    21,958
    ^^^^

    I dont think Romney was going for the pocket at the 12 second mark.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,188
    Likes Received:
    20,340
    Obama is just running circles around Romney and Romney is clearly out of his league.

    The attack on Romney's personal taxes and his tax plan are brutal. In both cases Romney can't reveal info because it will sink him. And so he cant defend and Obama is just steam-rolling him here.

    Not only will this knock Romney out of contention and give Obama a wider margin of victory - perhaps larger than in 2008, it will serve as a mandate for his tax policy going forward.

    It's sheer brilliance and shows that Obama once again is far more than the right-wing nuts give him as a leader and politician.

    It's a vice that is killing Romney and Romney hasnt been able to get any kind of counter attack going. The "You didn't build this" attack has lost steam and never resonated anyway. Romney has failed to understand what people really care about, what the middle class cares about are the following:

    Fairness
    Honesty
    Transparency
    Trust

    Obama has those traits Romney doesn't. He made a massive error from the get go. All he had to do was release his taxes and let people see he didn't pay much. It's out there. It's done. But by hiding it, everyone knows the truth anyway - that he didn't pay much, and he comes across as untrustworthy and as someone who isn't telling the full story.

    Massive error. Instead of just releasing it and saying - hey, it is what it is, let's talk about the economy now...he has to constantly talk about why he won't show his taxes.

    He has lost, this election is over. No amount of cash will help him. His only hope is the Voter Id laws now.
     
  10. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,571
    Likes Received:
    17,546
    Romney is ahead by 4 in Rasmussen and tied in Gallup today...

    He hasn't even begun to spend his money and no one is paying attention to the race right now.
     
  11. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 1999
    Messages:
    34,143
    Likes Received:
    1,038
    Umm....no.
     
  12. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 1999
    Messages:
    34,143
    Likes Received:
    1,038
    I agree with this. I wish people would stop saying that Obama has this race locked up.

    A lot of the attention for this election has been shifted over the past month to the shooting in Colorado and the Olympics. The debates have not even began yet. The political landscape seems anything but stable for both candidates. There is simply too much that can happen between now and November to say that anybody has this in the bag.
     
  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2001
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    2,823
    Hence Clinton being elected twice and Ron Paul getting single digits.
     
  14. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    That's the best part. Also, if the GOP runs the the same ad with Obama being a pickpocket, it would be racist.
     
  15. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,188
    Likes Received:
    20,340
    Rasmussen is heavily biased because of their methodology and is widely dismissed this year because of its poor polling methods.

    Gallup is much better but it is one poll and still generally shows Obama ahead nationally. Swing states are what matter though.
     
  16. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    15,608
    Likes Received:
    6,577
    I called it -- timestamped above. You clowns should start listening more.
     
  17. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    21,310
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    LOL who would have know Obama has a serious problem with white voters
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,188
    Likes Received:
    20,340
    I think it's a good pick for Romney. I really do. He didn't have much choice. It's like McCain picking Palin. Honestly, he had nothing to lose. Romney is in the same boat.

    Ryan is likely to backfire for him, but it also just might work out. However, for that to happen, Ryan will have to shine bright and that may put Romney out of the lime-light too much.

    Best case for Romney is that Ryan becomes his right hand man in having a plan for the budget and also having greater conviction and moral than Romney.

    That can either work to make people more comfortable with Romney as now he has someone who covers up that hole in him, or it will only remind voters even more how much they dislike Romney personally.
     
  19. Qball

    Qball Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2001
    Messages:
    4,151
    Likes Received:
    210
    lol, that's over the top :grin:
     
  20. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 1999
    Messages:
    23,122
    Likes Received:
    10,158
    So, we have a presidential candidate running on the ideas of his VP pick? What could go wrong?
     

Share This Page