DONE DEAL: Dwight Howard to Lakers, Bynum to Philly, Iggy to DEN, Garbage to ORL

You must spread some reputation around.

 

The problem is that I can't rationalize Daryl not beating that offer. If he wouldn't give up even one out of Lamb/Motiejunas - two players that are at least on par with Harkless, if not better - along with the Toronto pick for the third-best player on the planet... then in my opinion, he doesn't get it in regards to just how important superstars are. Based on his prior comments, I think he does. It's essentially Kyle Lowry, pick #12 and Kevin Martin.

Likewise, I can't see any rebuilding GM looking at Afflalo as a net positive. He had a PER of below 15, was ranked as one of the worst defenders in the league, and is signed at $8 mil/per for the next four years. Harrington goes without saying. Essentially, a rebuilding team in Orlando got Harkless, three mid-to-late first rounders, a mediocre, low-potential SG on a rich deal and an albatross vet in Harrington.

Yes, it's possible that Hennigan sees Harkless and Afflalo completely different than most of us. It's possible that Morey wasn't willing to beat that offer. But I find both unlikely. To me - and I admit I could be wrong - it's more realistic that Orlando had a mandate from the top to try and meet Dwight's desires if at all reasonable. There have been far too many illogical parts of this process - both the ultimate deal as well as the "serious talks" with Brooklyn - for me to think Orlando was looking at this strictly from the perspective of what works best for them.

 

Maybe the second sidekick trade just didnt pan out, so there was no reason to make the deal.

 

Yeah, this is what I can't wait for. Lamb, Jones, and White are going to ball this year and Orlando management will look pretty stupid.

 

Sorry, ain't buying it. We had the best deal on the table. Affalo is a very nice player, no doubt. But Orlando is rebuilding. They're gonna waste him for 2-3 years. He'll be hurting their lottery chances by playing good and he'll be wasting his prime playing for a lottery team. Orlando is rebuilding. They needed to move contracts, not take back long-term salary and have a multiplicity of youngsters and picks.

The only logical plausible reason this trade went down as constructed is because Fegan put Martens in a vice grip going back to last season's trade deadline. It's the only plausible reason. Hennigan is too smart and too schooled to take this deal over the Rockets offer. And there is simply no way Morey underbid this offer. No way. Dwight is the second or third best player in the league. Morey is very, very intelligent. There is no way that he let another deal trump his.....especially since this deal is sooooooooo lame. It's real simple. Toronto's lottery pick OR Lamb by themselves combined with the cap space relief for Orlando trumps this offer.

You will find out through your inside channels sometime over the next season that we had Lamb, Jones, Martin, one or both of PPAt and Morris, along with the two draft picks and the expirings up on the table for Dwight, JRich and Duhon. No comparison in those assets and the positioning it give Orlando going forward versus what they got. Simply no comparison.

 

These are my thoughts too. I can't say I don't blame morey or magic. I'm in the camp of playing the young guys vs the rental. Not only that, like the magic guy stated,,maybe morey got cold feet. I'm pretty sure, just speculation, they wanted do-nuts to start. Looking at them getting vucevic or whatever his name is tells me they wanted a young big. Getting harkliss and affalo probably also meant they wanted lamb and maybe jones too. I'm not trippin because once lakers got involved, it was over. Kupchak know how to get others involved and close the deal. It mostly comes from relationships he formed while being behind west.

 

This is also the sme guy who showed up at 1201 and offered gortat 4m vs full mle. We dnt know what was offered,but I'm sure that do-nuts wasn't part of it and orlando just passed. In these high stakes games, you have 1 good shot so it better be a great shot,not ok shot. Let's just say orlando said we want martin,donuts,jones,lamb,and white along with the toronto pick and the rockets pick in alternate yrs for 2 yrs? Should morey make that trade?

 

I have to say that I am disappointed that Houston didn't step up more and make the trade - I think it was a mistake - unless Howard gets injured.

I think the biggest losers in Houston / Orlando not doing a deal was Houston / Orlando.

I think a 2/2/2 deal would have gotten it done and I don't think it would have been too much for Houston.

Now I can root for a Howard injury since he is with LA - I didn't wish that on Houston, but I do wish that on Howard.

I'm disappointed that Houston and Orlando couldn't come to a deal - I think both teams lose. At least Houston has a lot to build on, but I can't believe Morey passed on Howard.

Good luck to you all, you'll certainly do better than Orlando.

 

is it true that howard is gonna miss the beginning of the season and return in january?

 

Yup rehabbing his back until then.

 

No. The end.

 

Yeah the Houston deal might not have been what all of you believe. I have said before to others Morey most likely low balled him. That is Morey's nature and it most likely has not changed. So it is probably very accurate that Houston did not wow them with their offers. For a rental of Dwight Howard why would Morey have given the whole roster? It was unrealistic. Anyone who believed they would give up all of our youth and picks for a rental is as unreasonable and delusional as the premise is or rather was. So again Orlando was most likely trying to entice Morey to give more and it never materialized. That is where LA found others willing to get involved to help them out. Apparently Morey cannot find others to get involved to help them out or he got rid of all the guys on the roster worth the other teams helping us out for/let their contracts expire for nothing.

 

Clutch has already pointed out that a conspiracy on Orlando's part only explains the Lakers part. It does not explain why Orlando didn't deal with Houston.

To me, the only explanation, assuming that Morey was willing to beat the Philly-Denver offer, is that the conspiracy was on Houston, not on Orlando. That is, Morey was forced to pull his offer for some reasons.

 

Yeah I dont think in all situations it calls for balls to be able to return. I guess it is brave of some of you to be "able" to return. After the humiliation over a long period of excruciatingly long time of being wrong.

As opposed to others whom we may not name were right and are absent. For whatever reason?

 

Don't you guys get it? It's all about LA's "will to win".

Prepare to blow chunks over the most masturbatory sport's column ever written.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baske...mostviewed+(L.A.+Times+-+Most+Viewed+Stories)

 

Let me get this straight:

They asked Houston for: martin,donuts,jones,lamb,and white along with the toronto pick and the rockets pick in alternate yrs for 2 yrs.

They took the Denver-Philly offer of: Aflalo and Harkless + some crappy late 1st rounders.

Do you seriously think that the two deals are comparable? A package of two of the 4 rookies and the toronto pick would have trumped Aflalo+Harkless.

 

This is typical Lakers stuff. This is why I've been hating on the Lakers for almost 3 decades.

 

I only said that becasue hot shot poster was acting like I had run away. I hadn't. I actually have a day time job. And he made a r****d statement that indicated I was hiding out from the board like I should have known in advance that the trade was going down this morning and taken off work so I could be on here to post. Get real boys.

 

I said this in another post. It's not the Lakers. It's LA. The only reason the Clips sucked for so long is because of their owner. This has nothing to do with the Lakers, and everything to do with living in arguably the best city in America, especially if you are a rich celebrity.

 

It's easier than that Easy. At last year's trade deadline Martens hardballed Dwight and told him if he didn't opt in for another season that they were trading him that day to ..... yes.....Houston. Dwight and his agent fiddled around and got Martens to agree not to trade him to Houston if he opted in for his final season along with Martens foolishly agreeing to attempt to trade Dwight to Brooklyn. So, when the Brooklyn trade did not materialize, Fegan and DH went through the roof with Martens and then when the trade talks with Houston started up again, Fegan basically blackmailed Martens into moving Dwight to the Lakers by threatening him that if he traded with Houston, Fegan was going to come out with evidence of their handshake agreement from the last trade deadline not to trade Dwight to Houston.

This was simply a case of two men (Fegans and Howard) verbally pummeling and threatening another man (Martens) into submission.


This, my friends, is the only logical explanation of why Orlando made such a stupid trade for their franchise and their fan base. Martens was the knight in shining armor that flew in out of the sky to work "magic" with Dwight. But it turns out, he was not a knight.....but a clown.


Coulda, woulda, shoulda...Dwight should be here now. But alas, I did not account accurately by only allotting 1% to megarich men with huge egos and no sack to do the right thing for their employers, their teams and their fanbase. Martens was played for the fool he is.