they upgraded from the 25th best player in the league (with bum knees and **** for brains) to the 5th best with.......a lottery-protected pick in 2017.......uhh yeah, that's a kosher deal
If you believe anyone believed this in the past when the rumors were floating, then go to any of the past Howard threads that involved Bynum and show me where anyone ... ANYONE ... said the Lakers would be getting Howard for nothing. Now show me one GM or reporter who said the Lakers would be getting Howard for nothing.
He plays the most important position at an elite level on both ends of the floor, totally 25th, lmao...
You mean, Howard for Bynum + picks + taking on a really bad contract in Chris Duhon. The Lakers probably had the most even part of this trade, as far as what they gave up for what they got. The trade is bad because Orlando decided they wanted nothing, and the 76ers and Nuggets got ridiculous value for what they gave up.
Pau Gasol had made 2 All-Star teams at that time and was effiencent, the Grizz turned down Luol Deng, and BG for Gasol... for Kwame Brown... GTFOH
elite level? his team just got swept out of the playoffs 2 yrs in a row with kobe & gasol at his back
He's a terrible fit for that team, what's your point? Everybody knows this, starting with Phil Jackson.
No, he IS elite, he just takes away from the main strengths of Pau. He has the unfortunate problem of playing with the most skilled big man in the NBA, yet he requires the offense to run through himself to be effective. Or are you really that baffled as to why Pau has been neigh useless the last couple of years?
At this rate it looks like the Lakers will get Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love in a few years smh NBA Onwers are dumb
OK, let me make it more simple for you. Lakers trading Bynum in a blockbuster to get Howard is a longstanding rumor, right? Go to the GARM and show me one person who in those past Howard trade-rumor threads said Bynum for Howard would mean the Lakers get Howard for nothing. Show me someone who said that in the rumor threads. Do you still not understand my challenge?
the pau gasol one was more lop sided. I mean they gave up Bynum on this one, who was acquired by sucking in 2004-2005. The problem is orlando got dog poop from everybody else involved.
let's assume that you are correct and he is in fact elite. i don't agree that he is elite in any sense of the word but let's just ignore my opinion for the moment. why didn't orlando keep him? why the hell wouldn't they want an elite center to step in and replace D12? and morey as well, whose talent evaluation team includes people like carroll dawson, a guy who has intimate knowledge into recognizing elite big man skills after working with mo malone, dream, yao -- why didn't morey jump on bynum? even after bynum was already reported to like the rockets as a candidate team to play with in the future? is it because of his knees or his bball IQ, or both?
The poll is confusing because it's not really outlining the trade from the Lakers POV. The trade was Bynum + future protected #1 for Howard, Duhon, Clark. That is a fair trade for a superstar. Credit to the Lakers for drafting Bynum with their only lotto pick some time again. Now, as far as the entire trade, it is awful from the Magic POV only because they aren't even getting the only good piece, which is Bynum. I still have no clue what their management was thinking there. They aren't even getting any extra cap relief, and the picks will likely be crap. If they end up getting the #1 pick in the draft (ala NOH), then I will begin to suspect foul play.
challenge? darmor90 said the fakers upgraded for nothing. it seems u are taking this too literally. they upgraded the center position without giving anything up on top of bynum.
Hold on a second... Here are the facts of Bynum's value The market has just established that Bynum is at least valued at Iguodala, Moe Harkless, Nikola Vucevic and a future #1 pick. That is what the 76ers gave up to get Bynum. Had that is bare minimum, because the Lakers are more willing to let go of Bynum if they get Howard. If it were only a Laker / 76ers trade, the 76ers would likely have had to give up more.
It's light years better than Kwame Brown + 2nd rounder for Pau (granted, Marc turned out to be good, but at the time...)
i just don't see how trading a guy like bynum who has yet to prove he can carry a team, serious injury concerns for his career, plus documented attitude problems straight up for dwight howard, who has dominated the paint for years and singlehandedly taken his team to the finals......can be considered equal value
