Houston Sends: Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Jeremy Lamb to Orlando Houston Receives : Duhon from Orlando; James Harden from OKC. Orlando Sends: Dwight Howard and Jason Richardson to OKC; Duhon to Houston. Orlando Receives: Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Jeremy Lamb, Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins. OKC Receives: Dwight Howard and Jason Richardson OKC Sends: Perkins, Ibaka to Orlando, Harden to Houston. Houston gets a young all-star SG to help bring in the future and solidify our team a little more. I know Lamb looks good but this is a chance to get a player who is already a star and bring a championship quality team to Houston sooner rather than later. Lin/Douglas/Duhon Harden/ Parsons/ Jones / Morris DMO/White/ Jones Asik/
They can get rid of extra contracts to Houston rather than directly to OKC. They also might be hesitant in giving Harden and Ibaka max like contracts. I'd say OKC and Houston add in a pick. They also get a great expiring in Kevin Martin that they can flip at the deadline for picks or another young stud (maybe add in The Wolves, creating a 4 way, and send them Kevin Martin and Patterson for Derrick Williams)
If Minnesota is crucial in that deal, why don't they take Harden, that's who they were targeting with Williams in the first place earlier this summer. Lets leave 'Sota, it's a bad move for them. Lets say you are Orlando, you are offered Harden/Ibaka, with Harden being the closest thing to a young star you can get. Do you turn around, call Houston and offer Harden and Duhon for Lamb, pick, Patterson and expiring? Magic GM would have to be fired if he did that.
heck, if you think those trades would fly - get me DWill and Big Al.... Kmart/PPat/2nd for Al - cool I'll replace DWill in the other scenarion for any mix of TJ or Royce, Dallas 1st, douglas or assorted spare parts if they want em... (along with Morris n smith)..and keep DWill.... Lin/Rid/Machado Lamb/?? Parsons/DWill DWill/DMo/Tj or Royce Al/Asik
OKC getting the missing piece and dominating the west for years to come while w eoly get the inconsistant 6th man of the year????????
you "get for free the 6th man of the year with superstar potential who fans completely dismiss because he wasn't great vs. LeBron, and superb every other time", you mean.
Fair, throw Parsons to the wolves if and only if T. Jones can cover the 3. (that is a big if) OR We send R.White to Minny (RA with a big that passes first out of the post) but get D.Cunningham instead of Utah There is only one ball Lin, Lamb, Motiejunas, & A.Jefferson - D.Will would not fit IMO.
indeed, i wonder how Al Jefferson would fit. McHale did trade for Al-Jeff, maybe he'd figure it out. but either way, IMO he's not the "franchise" piece that Morey said he wants to get. D-Will is a great P&R big, he doesn't really need the ball that much. But I'd worry about the other side of the floor. Derrick Williams is a typical small-ish PF defensively. He can defend the P&R, he has relatively quick hands. But he's not someone who will protect the rim consistently. Neither is Donatas. So that would fall on Al Jefferson, who's not very good or high energy. That's a flaw in that rotation.
re Parsons - not sure if Wolves would see much sense in having AK/Kirilenko/Budinger on their roster (Budinger is good enough for a backup 3). Or that Williams is worth giving up all those pieces from the Rockets point of view. But on paper in a vacuum it seems fair.
Time to deal with the devil. Jazz really needs a SG and needs to unload Bell who refused a buy out. We eat Bell's remaining year for Favors and Kanter while giving them a starting SG who might actually resign for the Jazz and a couple of PF backups. We then need to find a SG (Delfino?) and tweaks around the deadline.
Right team - wrong players. IMHO now way the Jazz deal their future frontcourt to H-town. More realistically = UTH gets K-Mart + JJJ + Morris H-town gets Jefferson + Bell That's a "win-win" for both teams. Morey helped draft Jefferson and Bell could rotate with Lamb. Utah gets a steady outside shooter and some frontcourt depth (JJJ + Morris)
Alright, now that this Howard fiasco is finally over, it looks like we're all back to the infamous 'Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas Thread". I like this second trade with the Jazz more. There's NO way they give up Favors and Canter. No way!
rule of thumb: if you find a trade that solves all Rockets problems by getting great young talent while giving away crap you don't really want in the first place... it probably won't work in real life.
Please stop with this Al Jefferson nonsense. We don't need him and if he's really all that good how come the Jazz can't find a taker and his last team dumped him?
OK...maybe I was greedy... I used to like Jefferson but I don't think he's someone we can use to rebuild with at this point. I can strip some down but the bottom line is I'd trade Martin for either (Kanter + Bell) or (Favors + Bell) and Carroll for salary filler. We need to move Martin and we need someone who can actually play the C. Asik is ok bit I don't want to just see someone to slide over and try not to let too much damage happen - unless we're going for a top pick in 2013.
I agree, Utah is the play... Favors or Kantor are obviously preferred, but I'd like to get AL and he should be relatively cheap... Kmart, MMo and Royce or Jones and maybe throw in a 2nd rd.... and I still think Derrick Williams would fit in...
'Sota dumped him because Kevin Love was turning into a star, and they are a horrible fit. Not sure the Jazz have been trying to dump him hard. They were happy getting into the playoffs last year, and Favors/Kanter needed seasoning. This is the year to do it. That said, he's not a good fit for the current Houston roster --- or for the current phase of building that the Rockets are entering. He's a supplementary, close to All Star level player who would be the most valuable if placed next to an Ibaka type, on a slow half court team. E.g., put him on the Celtics, he'd add a ton.
