*IF* the Dwight/LA trade is legit, what's Morey's plan B?

I think, LAL LAC Spurs OKC Mem Den Minny Mavs are all definitely better. We will probably be a 9-10 ish seed.

 

Your exactly right he is delusional.

 

There is only one plan B that makes any sense, a top three pick in the 2013 NBA draft.

Any other approach is absolutely insane.

 

Isn't it like plan H by now??

 

I'm not even mad, this is expected and Im happy the rockets is finally on the right track (rebuilding from scratch).

 

I'm right there with you. No way we don't end up with a top 5 pick. If we roll with this line up we should be able to draft someone with franchise potential.

 

amare, melo, bosh, cp3, gasol, dwill, howard.....pretty soon morey will run out of all-stars to fail at acquiring

 

The Rockets are going to be 2011/12 Bobcats bad this year. It's always been Plan B. Darly Morey is a spectacularly bad GM and it says a lot about the lackeydom in H-town that so many continue to be fanboys of his.

 

+ Utah, 45 win pace last year, a lot of room to improve from within + they've upgraded at PG and SF.

Then you have
Portland: the same as last year basically, but without the locker room headache (Jamal Crawford) and adds Lillard.
GSW: you have a shot to be better, depending on their injuries.
Suns: Scola/Gortat/Dragic = probably a little better your 3 best players, even assuming Asik transitions to starter without diminishing returns.
Kings: more talented than the Rockets, finally have their PF, may implode.

All of these seem like 50-50 shots or worse for you to outperform. You'd have to outperform them all to end up 10th.
More likely, even if the Rockets are relatively healthy, they outperform one or two and end up somewhere around 12th-13th.

 

This team is already better than last years team. If we lose more than last year it will be by design.

Go Morey.

 

I didn't knew we had a plan B ... DH12 or Bynum was plan A.

 

Absolutely true. But even that doesn't net us much. 2013 draft is terrible. As it stands now, Cody Zeller is #3. A white center with 6'8" wingspan. Unless his arms grow like 4 inches each way, he will be useless in this league.

 

nerlens noel is an extremely talented center who could be a superstar within the next few years. his draft stock seems to be at a top-3 pick in the 2013 draft. many people on CF want us to draft either him, shabazz mohammed, or cody zeller. but that's only if we get a top-3 pick.

 

DimeDropper :grin:

 

Hah! Good one, but I'm not that guy. Daryl Morey's long record of Fail is enough to motivate more than one guy to bemoan it.

 

Only problem is that the Jazz will not give us Favors nor Kanter. Jazz will give us Milsap before they give us their young frontcourt.

 

After we trade Martin, are we officially the youngest team in the league? Big chance we don't make the playoffs, but who cares, I am excited.

 

If you are trading Martin at the deadline you are sending him to one of two types of teams:

1) A contender - Not likely to net you a lottery pick in this scenario , probably a mid to late first rounder at best - then you have to consider what salary you had to take back from that team as most are or will be at or over the cap.

2) A team seeking to dump longterm salary. You may get a lottery pick in this scenario , the odds are far greater than the above. But you again have to consider what you are taking back .... Similar to the #1 the Rockets got for sending Battier to Memphis , the price was taking on Thabeet's contract.

How does that affect your plan going forward ??

Pretty much my thoughts at this point. Howard and Bynum were the only top talents available , Bynum only if the return is Howard.
No other game changers available now so they may as well stay the course and wait for next year's draft and FA .... you'll have plenty of capspace and the rules change as well. Teams over the cap wont be able to S&T making your cap space all the more valuable.
In the mean time you play your young guy's and if they play well , fine , if they net you a lottery pick , thats fine too.
Question is , who's available in that FA class ?!


Another question I have ... About the path that Orlando chose to take in moving Howard. Rather than getting young players with upside and an early pick in return , they took veteran players with significant cap implications and what is likely to be three mid to late picks.

Did Orlando just get themselves stuck in the same rut the Rockets have been in for the past several years with their return ?! ... they have become the Orlando Rockets ?!!?

 

great points.

maybe that's what you meant to write, but a small correction --- it will only apply to teams that are above luxury tax line (or to be precise, above luxury tax + ~5 mil exception).

You mean 2013 free agents?
Chris Paul, but he will probably just resign with the Clippers on the first day possible.
Of course Howard and Bynum if they don't take extensions.
More realistically, Harden, Stephen Curry, Ibaka, Tyreke Evans, Josh Smith, Al Jefferson, Paul Milsap, Brian Scalabrine.
There's some star power.

i think they'll be worse than mediocre. they also gave up Jason Richardson and Afflalo will merely replace him. Afflalo is pretty good when he wants to be, but he wasn't at his best last year. We will see.
Harrington is worse and older than Ryan Anderson. I like Vucevic, but he is soft, it's a bad fit.
Jameer-Afflalo-Turkoglu-Harrington-Vucevic is a bad team.
They'll probably win 25-30 games. Then the next year they will cut Harrington and Turkoglu and be even worse.

In 2 years, they'll end up with Jameer who's a good leader with winning attitude. And Afflalo who's a hard worker, or at least he was until this season.
And Big Baby who's got plenty of good toughness.
Basically, three veterans to set the right culture and teach the kids.
And over these next few years, they should end up with several picks in the lottery (their own).

It's a fine plan IMO. They might end up like the Cavs.

It's just that they are getting robbed in this particular deal.
This feels more like LeBron sign and trade than all those superstar trades like D-Will or Chris Paul.

 

To answer the original post:

Wasn't Asik/Lin plan B?

That's the beautiful thing about Morey's moves this summer. He brings in a host of young talent, secures some great future draft considerations, and has the right 'pieces' in 3 important spots. The final move is to get the 'star' to blend with all the pieces, and if he can't do it without ruining the team completely he seems happier to let the young team play (because young teams lose) and then get the high draft pick that way.

If we get a top 10 draft pick(seems likely), and also happen to have a top 10 draft pick from Toronto (seems likely) and also have a 20ish pick from Dallas, and also have a nice 2nd rounder, you can't tell me that we'd be unable to manufacture that into something on draft day?