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*IF* the Dwight/LA trade is legit, what's Morey's plan B?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OremLK, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. Spooner

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    This. I like the caproom, I like the rooks and I like the Toronto pick. We are in a much better position than we've been in a while.
     
  2. count_dough-ku

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    Hopefully Plan B is what Plan A should've been all along. Play and develop the young guys, trade Martin for something of value or let his contract expire and add more cap space, stockpile draft picks, and finally rebuild from scratch.

    If this Dwight trade goes through, I think it's safe to say that no one in the West is gonna compete with the Lakers or Thunder. And that's to say nothing of what awaits you in the East with the Miami Heat. So why even bother going for some quick fix, short term rebuilding strategy that's already been a complete failure 3 years running?
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Would have to think that Martin and Richardson would provide some unwanted duplication for the sixers. Turner sort of makes more sense for them coming off the bench as a playmaking type of wing to create offense. Martin is a shooter, and playing off of a big like Bynum would make him an almost identicle player to Richardson with them.

    Im just still scratching my head about this Dwight trade. Not that it happened, and the Rockets weren't involved, but just how incredibly terrible the trade is for Orlando. You want to talk about the Rockets being mediocre... damn. When your starting lineup looks like

    Nelson/Reddick/Turkaglo/Davis/Vucevic

    wow....

    Could be the worst trade Ive ever seen in the NBA. No purpose whatsoever to it other than to just get the trade done.

    Back to the Rockets.

    They are left with a nicely balanced, very very young/high upside team, an extremely good draft pick, and a nice trade piece in Kevin Martin going into the first half of the season. For those still wondering if the Rockets have truely chosen a direction... I dont know how you can see anything else... They could have depleted the roster for Dwight if they wanted to, but obviously the direction has changed upstairs in the Toyota Center.

    Its Going to be an exciting year, and even if this team doesn't make the playoffs, I think I will cheer even harder, and love rooting for this team more. The wins... even few and far between, will feel much much more sweeter.
     
  4. sugrlndkid

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    people really overplay the knees...but Amare is one of the best at pick and roll..he just needs a good PG...hopefully Lin is that answer...Amare is a poor defender, but that is why Omer is there...he job...rebound, cheap baskets, and block shots...
     
  5. sugrlndkid

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    Amare, Lin, Lamb are marketable...not about being one dimensional...Martin is the definition of one dimension...at least with amare he has size...and decent quickness...and he is 29

    Smith is 26 and still explosive...

    That combo has below avg defense and a respectable offense...Mind you the Allstar game is in Houston this year...
     
  6. Aruba77

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    I think he'll be a valuable trade chip at the deadline. If Potland can get #6
    (Lillard) for Wallace, we should be able to find a way to turn Martin into a rebuilding piece.
     
  7. htownrox1

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    Morey's plan B you ask? Hmm ok. Let's see if we can figure that out. First, let's take a look at his moves so far.

    He gets rid of Dalembert, Budinger, Lowry, Dragic, Camby, Lee, and amnesties the heart of our team in Scola. Then he goes all out for Lin and Asik. Both of those contracts are without a doubt overpriced, but we do have needs now that Morey gutted our whole team. Next we hear that we are hot after Dwight Howard through numerous credible sources. It is widely accepted that we have the best offer that the Magic could look for so it seems as if we are in the drivers seat. But what happens next? Oh that's right Dwight is pretty much gifted to the Lakers and Morey apparently just stopped pursuit altogether.

    So let's get this straight, Morey guts our whole team in pursuit of Howard and suddenly gives up on him in the last hour. Now it seems as if we are in rebuilding mode. The only problem there is that IT MAKES NO FREAKING SENSE!

    If you are going to go the rebuilding way then why the hell don't you just do that in the first place? Why go all out in pursuit of Howard only to stop in the last minute? It just doesn't make sense. If Morey really wanted to he could have landed Howard. He could have definitely landed Bynum, that's for sure. Is Morey really, finally gonnna go all out and rebuild? Or is Les in control and calling the shots? Either way, I'm sick of all this madness.

    The powerhouses of the NBA continue to get stronger and the mediocre continue to get mediocre. Things will never change unless Stern retires or dies. Let's face it folks, the Lakers were pretty much gifted Pau Gasol and now it seems Dwight will be a gift too.

    If this trade actually goes down then the GM of the Magic is a complete idiot. He is a raging lunatic.

    The sad thing is is that I will continue to watch the NBA no matter what and I will be forced to continue watching this unfair madness.

    Honestly, I truly do feel for Daryl Morey. I really do. I just don't understand him sometimes.
     
  8. ico4498

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    Murry's plan b is so appealing some think it should be plan a.
     
  9. charles_zed

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    Amare needs to play C alongside a stretch-4 to make him effective. There's a reason why

    Chandler - DPOY and Olympian
    Amare - All-star
    Carmelo - Superstar Olympian

    Didn't work at all last year and a big part of it was the spacing issues and their front-court not being complementary to each other at all.
     
  10. clos4life

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    Seriously. Are you a Knicks fan? Because no one is taking on Amare's contract. NO ONE.

    It's not even guaranteed, as soon as he blows his knees or something else you are on the hook for all that money. That's just not smart man. Seriously.
     
  11. josephnicks

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    there seems to be conflicting reports. espn reported bynum will test the FA market..
     
  12. jch1911

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    Plan B

    Three team trade with Houston, Sacramento, Utah (trade 1)or Houston, Utah, Memphis (trade 2)

    Trade 1:
    Houston gets C/F Al Jefferson & G/F Tyreke Evans
    Utah gets G/F KMart & F/C JaJaun Johnson + DAL 1st
    Sacramento gets F PPat; F Marcus Morris; & CHA 2nd

    or

    Trade 2:
    Houston gets C/F Al Jefferson & G Tony Allen
    Utah gets G/F KMart & F/C JaJaun Johnson + DAL 1st
    Memphis gets F Gary Forbes + F Marcus Morris + CHA 2nd

    WHY UTAH? Jefferson is probably going to walk from Utah and who drafted him into NBA? Daryl Morey, baby! Plus McHale acquired him for Minnesota before he got shipped to Utah. He plays the pick and roll beautifully. Provides scoring in the frontcourt and is protected by Asik. Why trade for Jefferson now? Ensure he gets more money when he signs with the Rox! (I think :confused:)

    K-Mart gives the Jazz scoring from the SG position. JaJuan Johnson provides frontcourt depth as Kanter & Favors move into starting roles. The Dallas 1st round pick is so they can find a replacement if K-Mart bolts in free agency.


    WHY MEMPHIS? Tony Allen is in the same situation as Jefferson and was also brought into the league by Morey. He plays defense and can rotate with Lamb.

    WHY SACRAMENTO? Tyreke Evans needs a change of scenery. Sacramento gets PPat and Marcus Morris to try out at SF to replace Evans.

    Trade 1
    Starters: Lin Evans Parsons Jefferson Asik Bench: Livingston Douglas Lamb TJones Royce DMo Fesenko

    Trade 2
    Starters: Lin Lamb Parsons Jefferson Asik Bench: Livingston Douglas Allen TJones Royce DMo Fesenko

    Since they are all Western Conference teams, little to no chance of this happening. But I do think we will make a push for Jefferson via trade or in free agency. Although it looks like we are going hard for Delfino. If he signs, you can nix Sacramento & Memphis.
     
  13. charles_zed

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    By gutting the roster Morey had cap space and young assets to make a tender for Dwight.

    Plan A might not have been successful but moving onward to Plan B and developing a roster full of young prospects over the next season and then acquiring a lottery pick and possibly a 2nd from Toronto the Rockets are in a great position for the 2013-2014 season with better seasoned young talent, one or two lottery players and lots of capspace to sign one or two free agents to fill their needs.
     
  14. Baqui99

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    We could always sign Pig Miller. Worked in the past.
     
  15. sugrlndkid

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    Oh god no...but in this league of stars...might as well start somewhere...get one..and you may get two...such is the league buy one get one free...
     
  16. clos4life

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    No one considers Amare a star anymore. No one. A good player still but not a star and no one is dying to play with him. Matador defense, lost his edge as an offensive player and hasn't been very good without a HOF guard or a system that features him.

    Are you sure you are not a Knicks fan?
     
  17. REDNINJA

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    B. Al Jefferson
    C. Al Jefferson
    D. Al Jefferson
     
  18. NickKent

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    Bottomline: The league is broke. Either you're a large market, and you get all the stars, or you get stuck in mediocrity, with your only way out by hoping that you get the right ping pong balls.
     
  19. Aruba77

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    Plan B - develop our young talent. hold Martin till the trade deadline and move him for a lotto pick. That will likely give us 3 lotto picks, hopefully yielding a franchise player (through trade or pick). Sign Ibaka in the offseason.

    1yr developed talent (Dmo, Lamb, White and Jones) + 3 lotto picks + Ibaka + Lin/Asik = great young foundation.

    Only question I have is what to do about the glut at the 4 spot, so White, Dmo, and Jones all have a chance to develop.
     
  20. DonatasFanboy

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    it's not happening not so much because of conference, but because you are robbing Sacramento and Memphis here. :p

    Jefferson --- I think that's possible. A serviceable player in Martin + a pick / sweeteners seems ok for a guy who will be lost after the season.
     

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