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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    This is funny on different levels. Even if all of that nonsense were true, how could GZ know it? And if he did know it, why the hell would he confront a dangerous kid on drugs in the dark when the police were on the way?

    You've failed as usual.
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    what do you do if someone's following you while carrying a gun and cocks it?
     
  3. El_Conquistador

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    Wow, you are just wrong. That's not what happened according to credible sources and Zimmerman's testimony (passed a lie detector). Zimmerman was rightly concerned about the safety of the community during this period of high crime rates. You should be mad at the vandals in the community that had been robbing houses -- it was their actions that put people like Zimmerman on high alert.

    But why did Martin attack Zimmerman like he did? Why was Martin so aggressive? Zimmerman was trying to protect the neighborhood when he confronted Martin. Martin told Zimmerman that he would kill him. It was only after Zimmerman was jumped by Martin (after Zimmerman was walking back to his car!) and beaten to within inches of his life, did he pull the gun and save himself from a certain death. That is far, far different than "killing Martin for walking in the rain with Skittles." Have you even bothered to read about Martin's history of violence and drug use? Good grief, this guy had trouble written all over him, and a lengthy rap sheet at a very young age. Hardly the sweet little angel that the media portrayed to stoke up these emotional flames.

    I'm assessing this in a rational, reasonable manner, free of all emotions. It's very hard to say that your side is doing the same. Unfortunately, the racial component makes some so emotional that they will disregard any and all facts.
     
  4. vlaurelio

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    zimmerman was aggressively running after him while carrying a gun and cocks it as well
     
  5. trueroxfan

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    LOL@Edward's assertion that GZ was "chasing down a kid."

    Correct me if I am wrong, but where has this been verified?

    Also, as we can assume that TM was unaware GZ was carrying a weapon at the time of altercation, we can also assume that GZ was unaware that TM was carrying skittles and an iced tea. Your standards of convictions are lower than the State's. You can't assume anything, there must be some kind of evidence to support that assertion, and to my knowledge there is none.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

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    Your quote above is a complete lie. The gun was on Zimmerman the entire time during the fight until he pulled it. If that weren't the case, then Martin would not have been sitting on top of Zimmerman punching him, he would have been reaching for the gun. Have you seen Zimmerman's interview? He goes through all of this. This story passed a lie detector and lines up with the police report and witnesses.
     
  7. vlaurelio

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    did you listen to the audio of the call with the dispatcher yes or no? anyone can clearly hear zimmerman running and cocking is gun
     
  8. trueroxfan

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    I listened to it several times a while back...I NEVER heard or even heard anyone SUGGEST that they heard that. Similar to the people who SWORE they heard him shout racist obscenities.
     
  9. El_Conquistador

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    Yes, and your statement remains absolutely false.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    his gun is double action only, it "cocks" when you pull the trigger. Try not to talk about firearms. Ever.
     
  11. bigtexxx

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    smh you need to educate yourself instead of just posting blindly out of bias
     
  12. QdoubleA

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    Yet you have no problem posting lies? Hmm....
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Actually that is false. You don't know what you're talking about. TM was not suspended for assaulting a bus driver, and there is no proof that he ever assaulted a bus driver.
     
  14. Granville

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    Owned.
     
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    Not that it means anything... There was an episode of After the First 48 that aired tonight that was a case from Miami where the suspect used the Stand Your Ground Defense after chasing and then stabbing a thief who stole his radio. The Judge agreed with the suspects claim of self defense via Stand Your Ground.

    I was sure that defense was not going to hold up. The ruling was around the time Trayvon was killed.
     
  16. El_Conquistador

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    You are trying to deceive by hiding behind a technicality (by claiming that there is no proof) -- his older brother said he did and the school isn't answering questions. His parents evaded answering when asked. A 10 day suspension isn't handed out for good behavior. Put 2 and 2 together.
     
  17. CometsWin

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    You're right, doesn't mean anything.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    Wrong. His older brother never said he did. A likely bogus twitter account that supposedly is from his brother but is likely fake claims he did.

    Sorry. Your making false claims based on flimsy evidence. I'm not sure what you hope to gain by trashing the reputation of the teen who lost his life that night. But it is poor form on your part.
     
  19. ScolaIsBallin

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    What does this have to with him getting killed? He was followed and killed by a wannabe cop.
     
  20. El_Conquistador

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    Go back a few pages and read from there -- you're wrong. Martin jumped Zimmerman and brought the fight to him. He beat Zimmerman to within an inch of his life and only at that point did Zimmerman shoot him. I suppose Martin was offended for being 'targeted' by Zimmerman, which is just hilariously stupid because after a string of home invasions, I have NO IDEA (sarcasm) why any person trying to protect the community would be concerned about a teenaged male on drugs and with a history of violence walking aimlessly around near houses in the rain. Again, if you want someone to blame for the initial intervention, then blame the vandals in the community that put everyone on high alert.
     

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