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Boston Mayor Letter to Chick-Fil-A bashes them over their anti-gay stance

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RedRedemption, Jul 25, 2012.

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  1. JMAD21

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    Again, please understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying "outlaw gays" people aren't gonna stop being gay if gay marriage is illegal. But to make it legal is sending a message that sin is acceptable, and as a Christian (though we all sin) I can't sit back and accept it.

    So should we "outlaw" all sins? No, that's unrealistic and would be impossible to enforce. But should we encouraanemone enable it? No we should not.
     
  2. emcitymisfit

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    Probably the ones getting their rights stomped on and told that they are inherently evil in the eyes of a God you arbitrarily choose to follow.

    So, would you support a bill declaring atheism illegal, or do we have freedom to live our lives apart from an establishment of religion, as the first amendment makes clear?
     
  3. emcitymisfit

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    Would you have been against repealing prohibition?

    Not even all christians think gay marriage is a sin. People interpret the bible differently, and our secular laws shouldn't be used to enforce your interpretation. People have the right to live as they see fit, and should be afforded equal rights in order to do so. It's not a difficult concept.

    "My religion says it's wrong, even though it doesn't affect me, so you can't do it." is inherently intolerant.
     
  4. JMAD21

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    Thats an unrealistic example... Of course atheism cant be illegal, because its a belief not a legal written document. Im not saying that it should be illegal to be gay, just shouldn't be recognized as "marriage"

    Tell me this, should it be legal for a father to marry his daughter? If they love each other then shouldn't they have the same rights? What about if someone falls in love with their pet rabbit? Should that be legal?

    Thats what will follow if gay marriage is legalized.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    sigh, we get here again.

    No to your two ridiculous metaphors, because a marriage requires informed, reasoned consent.

    Also, as soon as your argument becomes we shouldn't do x because x might not be bad, but y will, you lose.

    Next?
     
  6. JMAD21

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    Yes I would have been against it and if it was a realistic option I would vote for it today.

    I realize people interpret the Bible differently, but that doesn't make them right. The Bible doesn't have a "chose your ending" option. There is only one truth, and obviously I believe that through the studying i've done and teachings i've sat under that the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin.
     
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    "Informed, reasoned consent" as long as it matches what you believe... Gotcha!
     
  8. JMAD21

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    Not sure what happened there... lol
     
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    If you think an adult has the same mental capacity as a child or as an animal to be able to reason out a decision such as this than you have bigger problems to worry about than what teh gays do.
     
  10. JMAD21

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    A daughter doesn't have to be a child! Im referencing a recent story (cant remember where it was) but a newspaper headline was a picture of a pregnant woman, probably late 20's, posing with a man (her father) probably in his 50's. The headline read "Im having my fathers baby and we are in love"

    Should they be aloud to get married?
     
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    Aloud? I don't know.

    But allowed? Yes, if it's reasoned, informed consent.

    Now are you done reaching for extremes of stories from you "don't really remember where"?
     
  12. JMAD21

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    What can I say, not a great speller... lol

    Im not reaching for anything, i'm just giving an example of something I saw on the news awhile back. If you don't believe me than whatever dude!

    If you truly believe that it is okay for a man to marry his own daughter then I pray for you and the people that may look up to you!
     
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    I don't see a problem with it at all.

    What I do see a problem with is a bunch of people launching moral tirades and trying to influence other people's lives based on their misguided beliefs.

    Did not your great Bible-studying lead you to the following---

     
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    Lots of religious people seem to get the most concerned about their religion when it comes to political issues like this .... and then, the rest of the time, don't seem to care much about it at all.
     
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    Unfortunately, you are right. If more people that claim to be christians would stand up for what they believe all the time in stead of just certain issues, maybe we wouldnt see so many issues.
     
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    Thats pretty disturbing. Against the repeal of prohibition? So why shouldnt we jail atheists? Isnt that the biggest sin in the book?
     
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    Am I condemning gay people?? No, i'm just as much a sinner they are. It is not my place to judge or condemn.

    But my Bible-studying also led me to this...

    1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

    Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
     
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    Huh.

    Gonna have to give that a try. The collapse of repo markets in 2008, the extent of First Amendment protections in wartime media, the global debate on how to rein in climate change, the market structure of the pharmaceutical industry given the patent cliff and etc. just need a little bit more Christian in them. Then, everything will be alright.
     
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    Atheism is no more a sin than lying, cheating, or any other sin...

    A sin is a sin, all are the same in Gods eyes and nothing is unforgivable.
     
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    So, if God will judge them, why the hell do you care who does what?

    Did your bible-studying also lead you to conclude bacon, football and mushroom cuts are immoral?

    Leviticus 19:27 reads "You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard."

    Leviticus 11:8, which is discussing pigs, reads "You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you."

    Will you now "not condemn/judge" people who pursue these activities, and instead push towards government bans on the three?

    (I mean mushroom cuts are just terrible style, so I'd be at least partial to that.)
     

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