And society offers adoption, faith-based safety nets and government-offered safety nets. Why do you seek to make it everyone else's problem to solve except the actual parents?
Do you not know how to freaking read? They are taking responsibility by having an abortion. A fetus isn't a person. What you attribute to a fetus is your religious belief and in this country we have freedom of belief. That doesn't mean your belief can be shoved down someone else's throat. Again, how do as a society do you plan to care for fifty million children that are for whatever reason not wanted? I'm looking for answers, not slogans. And perhaps you think abortion is a casual thing because you're that naive about the emotions involved when a woman makes that choice. Another in a long list of stupid things you've said. You have empathy for a fetus but none for the woman or the child that's born. If you're going to quote scripture then I'll quote Hansel and Gretel. Equal time and all.
I'm sorry but this is a joke. Have you dealt with the foster home system in America? It's a total nightmare and its a path to failure for most kids who get trapped in the system. (and btw Republicans, the party that wants to save these fetuses, are cutting the very programs designed to help unwanted children) There simply aren't enough parents willing to adopt the millions of aborted fetuses out there. Unless you plan on spending billions to provide a real system to help unwanted children, you're condemning them to lives that none of us would ever want. You guys rail against abortion but then cut the services that would help the children that you "save" Disgusting hypocrisy if you ask me.
Bull ****. Absolute bull ****. I don't know one woman who has had an abortion and thought the experience to be "casual." Not one. You simply don't have a clue, do you, but you will endlessly argue this topic, round and round, never listening, going nowhere, insisting you are right until the Earth explodes, or you're dead. And that kind of discussion, putting aside that you completely derailed a thread, again, with your obstinance, is a complete waste of time. Except for you. You act like you care about people, but you don't. You've ruined another thread, and simply could care less.
Killing (what may be) a child is not taking responsibility; it is just the opposite. It's running away like an irresponsible coward. What if you are wrong about when life begins? That would stop you in your tracks except for your arrogance or dishonesty about these matters. You just want what you want. Can you read or reason? I haven't quoted scripture. I stated that this has been my "belief" years before any kind of faith walk. Yet you still come with the same tripe and try to pin this on some vacuous religiosity. Have the courtesy to read and understand what I've said or don't bother responding in such knee-jerk fashion.
If abortion weren't such an easy option, lots of these babies would be kept by the parents. Others would be adopted. Either is better than death. Any life at all is better than no life. Who are you to pre-judge that for people with such finality?
November 2006 http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/11/21/or29.pdf "Levels of repeat abortion increased at a slower pace between 1979 and 1993 (from 32% to 47%) and have remained stable since then." and "Our results suggest that some groups of women have multiple unintended pregnancies, some resulting in births, some in abortion, and that women rely on repeat abortion when they find themselves unable to care for a child, or another child, or have already met their childbearing goals." None of those motivations for abortion are considerate of the child but of the mother's ability or desire to parent the child at risk. I'd say that that is pretty casual. Maybe the prospect of being faced with keeping the child to raise it would see and increase in responsibility on the part of these parents?
If you believe terminating a fetus is killing a baby then that's your religious belief as I stated and it's not mine and it's not shared by tens of millions of others and it's not the law. Terminating a fetus is in fact taking responsibility for your situation. It's just not what you want them to do as I said. AGAIN, as a practical matter, how would you care for the fifty million children that would have been born in your desired scenario? Stop going around and around with your beliefs and tell me how we care for them as a society.
I'm not sure why you are so insistent that my belief is vulnerable and yours is unassailable? The law has and still can change? That's called progress. Terminating a "fetus" is a selfish solution, as I've said. No kid would ever vote for that. Leave those children with their parents to raise or give over to adoption. A better adoption system is a better industry to cultivate than abortion mills. If they step up they get help from several quarters. You are letting them be the most irresponsible part in this whole quandary... and it is a quandary. Sometimes people have to do what is not their first choice in life. It's called taking responsibility for the long haul.
Liberalism: Bullying for Adults http://www.thecatholicthing.org/col...things-that-remain.html#.UB07dlJaGJI.facebook Interesting.
I've done more thinking than anyone of these others. I've acknowledged their position. I admit to infringing on a woman's right to choose. I can live with that because there is a greater cause. Who will answer my straight-forward question: what if you are wrong about when life begins? There is no perfect solution that will please everyone in every aspect. Striving for a better more comprehensive solution is what I'm after. The pro-Choice crowd thinks that taking a life is the height of responsbibility because no one else is "helping enough." .... another Final Solution.
You can't be wrong. Life isn't scientific measurable thing. It is a philosophical question, not scientific.
All that has ever been produced from an abortion, a miscarriage or a live birth has a human genetic code. We'll leave the Soul out of the discussion for now... No toasters. No chicken breasts. No frisbees either. What say you now, Philosopher?
Stem cells have "human genetic codes", that can metamorphose into all sorts of functions and human components. If that's your line on "human life", then you don't have a line period.
Pray tell, what is your greater cause? Government criminalization that will lead to unsafe back-door abortions? An abortion police? You act like changing the law will change everything. a) It won't. b) the law won't be changed in our lifetimes, and will move forward, not backwards on this issue. Deal with it.
There's human genetic code in your hair, your skin cells, your cheek cells. Should it be a crime to scratch yourself since you are killing cells containing human genetic code?
