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Boston Mayor Letter to Chick-Fil-A bashes them over their anti-gay stance

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RedRedemption, Jul 25, 2012.

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  1. across110thstreet

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    your parents seemed to do a fantastic job
     
  2. Commodore

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    What if it was put this way?

    Not significant, show me the studies of sibling offspring with genetic defects. 1/4 of the world's marriages are between cousins. There are people with far worse genetic traits that are not prohibited from procreating or marrying (and who says they want to procreate anyway?).

    You think your exclusions against consenting adults are justified, but someone else's makes them a bigot. Get over your righteous self.

    A consistent view would be that the state should not recognize marriage at all, only contracts between any number of consenting adults.
     
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  3. FranchiseBlade

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    I've already commented on the state not recognizing marriages at all, as have others.

    I'm fine with that, but it isn't practical. Look how many laws would have to be changed. Laws regarding division of property with a divorce, laws about inheritance if one partner dies without a will, laws about hospital visitation, laws about insurance, laws about tax breaks etc.

    Again, most of the people who want govt. out of all marriage now, are only saying it now that same sex marriage is viable movement. There was no large protest against govt. involvement before.

    Sorry, Commodore it isn't self righteous. It's a matter of fact that the offspring of interfamily unions have a greater health risk.

    The fact is that marriage among first cousins does have a slightly higher risk, but those between brother and sister are much higher.

    http://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask243

    Again it's a stupid comparison to make because there aren't currently groups able to marry their siblings and other groups not able to marry their siblings in this country.

    Yes, someone who wants to exclude a group from the same rights that others have is a bigot. That's the definition of bigotry. It's not just what I think.

    I'm also addressing the law at present, not some impractical fantasy that was only brought up to allow people to oppose same sex marriage without seeming to be bigots. Almost nobody was up in arms about the govt. being involved with marriage before same sex marriage started becoming a viable option.
     
  4. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's not your word to define.
     
  5. Harrisment

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    Aaaand he's banned. Such a shame, stupidity can be really entertaining.
     
  6. IzakDavid13

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    you're right, they've already redefined it in Oxford's and Merriam-Websters.

    Oh well, you win. Here have a potato trophy::rolleyes:

    [​IMG]

    Have a good day y'all, be kind to each other...I'm taking my kids to the park.

    God Bless & Go Rockets!
     
  7. across110thstreet

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    IzakDavid, I am begging you not to post about this anymore and focus on your family.

    what if one of your beautiful children identified themselves, at an early age or in their teens, that they were attracted to others of the same sex?

    please think about what I am saying instead of just flippantly posting anti gay pictures and random memes. I want your kid to keep fighting but your posts are really narrow minded in certain regards, IMO.

    I respect every single person's right to feel however they feel but there is at time and a place for debate like this.

    I am not anti religion or anti christian. I am anti discrimination and that what this issue and thread has become.

    and to Pull Up 3 (was he really banned?)-

    thank you. thank you for expressing how you truly feel and bringing me the knowledge that Chick Fil A donations supported a hate group whose specific goal was to urge Congress to NOT condemn Uganda's "Kill the Gays" bill.
     
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    I don't understand why people act surprised when a Christian run company doesn't out right support something that is commonly known to be a against what Christians believe...


    Who ignorant here? The people stating their opinion? Or the ones who ignore the constitution unless it benefits them?

    Whether you agree with gay marriage or not, the guy has the right to believe whatever her wants. You don't ever see people that Christians or Christian organizations kicking down people doors because they disagree with them!
     
  9. IzakDavid13

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    I never posted any anti-gay pictures, but as you saw in my previous post...The Potato Trophy has been won!

    And I have just showered and taking my kids to the park, then to a concert that I do every fortnight for the youth in our area.

    As you can probably tell, I am over this thread and where it has ended up.

    It started off about freedom of speech, abuse of power etc, and then descended into the gutter.

    The Homosexuals are Gay picture was a jibe at people going over and over about things that have been over discussed in every gay debate and basically stating what we already know. It was not meant to offend anyone.

    Gotta go.

    God Bless y'all.
     
  10. CometsWin

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    That's so f'ing stupid. An one time blacks in this country werent considered human beings but rather property. Can't change the definition of the word, sorry folks. What a joke.
     
  11. across110thstreet

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    are you kidding? only because you mentioned this I should tell you how much I disagree with this statement

    not only do you see it but you see it in the most extreme forms.

    Koran burning, abortion bombing, and protesting military funerals come to mind.
     
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    Pull_up_your_pants's posts are very ironic considering he has such a hard-on for Dirk.
     
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    Why do people keep comparing this to black rights? I guarantee you, even if they are on your side, they are offended by this horrid, horrid analogy.
     
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    Please don't put Westbruro in the same category as Christians, those people are complete idiots who do why they do for money and attention. They are NOT Christians, they are a cult that have scued the image of true Christian churches.

    There are radicals out there just like any religion. But the churches that base their beliefs on what the Bible says in means do not cause an uproar when they disagree with someone. They will stand up for why they believe whil loving and praying for all sinners, strait or gay.
     
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    You're really missing the whole point of a civil union. Much of the marriage laws were built around a hetrosexual couple with a family and with the full intention of them living together for life. Marriages were not designed to be dissolved. Thats what prenups are for.

    Every relationship is different, especially in this day in time. Too many people get legally married when they are in puppy love and get stuck with the harsh laws of marriage.

    A civil union doesn't need a one solution for all. Its really foolish to legally bind two people in puppy love with one swipe of a signature and bind them to so many legal aspects.

    Tax breaks? Nobody should get tax breaks for being a couple
    Visitation rights? Let an individual determine who can and can't see them
    Inheritance? Make a will. Regardless of current laws, always make a will.
    Property? Again, let it be decided on the deed and mortgage
     
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    Sadly, visitation rights have to be meted if one party refuses.

    sigh. carry on.
     
  17. emcitymisfit

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    "You can't change the definition of a word" is a good defense of keeping black people considered property.

    "That's the way it's always been" is a pretty terrible defense of just about anything. You're not focusing on the merits of the arguments, for instance --

    Do gays deserve the same rights as straight people?
    Who benefits/who suffers if gays can marry?

    You're just saying "well, they haven't been able to marry before, so I think we should keep it that way." I figured we had left that argument back in the anti-miscegenation law debate
     
  18. emcitymisfit

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    Very few people are saying that Chik Fil A's idiot CEO doesn't have the right to believe his crazy nutty religion. The Boston mayor seems to be an exception, but this debate isn't about first amendment rights. People weren't lining up at Chik Fil A because of the constitution, they were lining up because of Leviticus.

    If conservatives were really serious about the first amendment, they'd be more concerned about people imposing their religious beliefs upon the rights of others.

    Christians don't knock down doors, but they sure seem to like to use legislative power and the power of government coercion to impose their views.

    Oh the irony that this seems to come from the party of liberty and freedom.
     
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    I never understood why people accuse homophobic people of being gay. To me, that's an insult to gays.

    The kid is a bigot. Rather than insult him, I'd rather people try to make him understand why that is. Better to educate than to push him into entrenching his bigoted views even more. But that's my opinion.
     
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    This post is intolerant
     

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