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What is Romney Hiding?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rashmon, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. gifford1967

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    There we go.
     
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    It's the logical conclusion for Obama's use of executive privilege to keep Congress from finding out who was responsible for Fast & Furious and the deaths of two federal agents.
     
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    How is this different from calling for multiple years of Romney's tax returns when the law requires only two? I still haven't seen how Obama justified the Rezko house on his tax returns -- McCain was too nice to campaign on Obama's criminal ties and activities back then. Oh, I forgot, those records are sealed.
     
  4. thadeus

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    thumbs has gone off the deep end.
     
  5. GladiatoRowdy

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    Sorry, you lost the credibility necessary to ask a serious question when you not only compared his administration's transparency to Nixon's, but actually tried to claim that Obama's record on those lines was worse.

    *snicker*
     
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    You need to try to toss me in the mud. Why? Because you can't answer any of the questions I posed. You are just following the Obama line of defense -- trying to deflect people from the truth and/or an actual inquiry into Obama's lack of achievement and backroom dealings to line his pockets.
     
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    See my reply to thadeus.
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    You tossed yourself in the mud when you laughably compared Obama's transparency record to Nixon's.

    I don't know why you would make such laughable claims. I think it has to do with your biased and partisan reading materials.

    Pretty much every question you have asked has been answered or is eye rollingly silly.

    Not deflecting anything, just tiring of the goalposts that move with every single answer given. One after another, questions are asked and answered and the crazies just double down. It wasn't enough that there was a birth certificate, newspaper announcement, and repeated statements from Hawai'ian officials, they wanted a "long form." When it was provided, it was decried as a fake by the TRULY crazy while the rest of the bassos and texxies started asking for college transcripts.

    Note the evidence from this thread, which is about the reasons that Romney might be refusing to provide a decade of tax returns (you know, like Obama did when he was running). The crazies (a category which you sadly seem to have joined) are now asking why Obama's staff haven't released their tax returns for a decade and claiming that this inaction somehow makes Obama's transparency record worse than Nixon's (ignoring the fact that Obama has asserted Executive Privilege exactly one time compared to Bush's six and Clinton's fourteen).

    Sorry, dude, I like you, but you have indeed gone off the deep end, have put your trust into liars, and I am truly sad for you because I believe that you are better than this.
     
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    1) Nixon had one serious indiscretion. Obama's range from Rezko to F&F. You did not demonstrate how Nixon was less transparent than Obama. For example, I cite Obama's secrecy in F&F. I see no factual rebuttal regarding Nixon/Obama.

    2) Again, if Harry Reid can make unfounded statements, why can't I? If posters here can make outrageous allegations and requests, why can't I?

    3) No, they haven't and no, you would like to think -- or hope -- the questions about Obama's actions and history will just go away. They won't.

    4) As I said, because Obama's mother was from Kansas, it would not have mattered to me had he been born in Kenya. It's the sealed records and avoiding congressional questions that reeks of a coverup of wrongdoing. BTW, all I ask is a level playing field. If you want Romney to show his records, how can you begrugde my asking for Obama's?

    Off topic, do you want to have breakfast with me Sunday morning?
     
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    I don't give a damn about Obama. I haven't voted for him, and I won't.

    But your claims are incredibly far-fetched.
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    You can make any allegations you like, but the difference is no one is listening to you.

    The drum beat is just going to get louder... either he follows in the footsteps of his father and releases his taxes or the growing suspicion will snowball into a non-stop topic.

    If you think it's bad now wait until October.
     
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    He has to release his 2010-11 tax records and that is it. As far as my audience, you might be unhappily surprised. However, I look forward to Romney unleasing his advertising money and asking questions Obama can't answer without showing his bottom.
     
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    Maybe. Maybe no. I'm just playing by the same rules Democrats have outlined.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    Obama's secrecy had to do with a failed program to try and track gun runners, presumably to bring them to justice, a program that was very similar to several other efforts by other administrations including the one immediately preceding Obama's.

    Nixon's secrecy had to do with a special prosecutor's request for information about criminal charges being brought against members of Nixon's administration.

    So, one of these instances had to do with criminal prosecutions, the other had to do with a stupid program by a sub-sub agency within the administration. Forgive me for believing that you were a person who had the ability to discern between these two assertions of Executive Privilege without having the facts of each case spelled out. If you like, I will be happy to detail the number of different criminal charges in the Watergate scandal versus the complete lack of criminal prosecutions regarding Fast and Furious.

    You can, but don't be surprised when people treat you like an idiot, just like they should do with Harry Reid when he does the same thing.

    Yes, the questions that are important about Obama have been asked and answered to the satisfaction of the people with critical thinking abilities. It is only biased partisans who actually believe the liars who tell them that Obama hasn't answered the questions.

    Obama has provided over a decade's worth of tax returns, I am asking for exactly the same records that OBAMA HAS ALREADY PROVIDED!

    If you are in the Clear Lake area, I would be happy to whip up some pancakes for you.
     
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    No, he's going to have to release the requested amount or Mittz is done -- and if Reid is right and he releases them he's not just done he's ****ed.
     
  16. Deckard

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    Either Romney has nothing to hide, and is dragging this out to embarrass the President and his campaign, or he has plenty to hide, and is arrogant enough to believe that he can fool the American people and get away with it. Take your pick.
     
  17. thadeus

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    But I thought you disagreed with Democrats?

    :confused:
     
  18. Rashmon

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    Of course it is. It sounds like you have only scratched the tip of the iceberg.
     
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    For now, I am going to respond to this first part. I am going to Austin tomorrow to see my niece receive her master's degree so I have to go to bed. I'll be back Saturday night. There's a great breakfast place on I-45 just above Gulfgate. I live in the Katy area but that's somewhat halfway. Invite glynch, thadeus or any of the others who would like to see what kind of an idiot I might be, or not.

    Now, Nixon stupidly sent burglars to Watergate despite having the election sewn up. That led to the lies and subsequent cover-up, for which he dearly paid. In other words, all the criminal acts were rooted in the burglary.

    Obama, by using executive privilege in F&F, has forced the proceedings into civil court where the rules are not as strict as criminal courts. Even if he wins the election, he could be impeached based on the discovery evidence gained through depositions and sworn testimony (there is no taking the fifth in a civil trial). The result will be tantamount to the Nixon impeachment -- surrender of the presidency and permanent disgrace. Holder et al could go to jail like the Nixon team, possibly for lying under oath to the Congress of the United States.

    Nixon was open about everything else. Obama, on the other hand, has covered up F&F, Solyndra, an accurate accounting of the stimulus money, White House security leaks...I'm tired. In your heart, you know how many more indescretions there are.
     
  20. Rashmon

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    You really don't know much about the Nixon years, do you?
     

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