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Understanding How Modern Liberals Think

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by cml750, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. RocketMan Tex

    RocketMan Tex Member

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    Liberal, Conservative, Republican, Democrat....blah blah blah.

    When are Americans going to finalkly realize that the only reason these words are in existence is so that Americans will constantly be arguing with each other while those who run this country fatten their bank accounts while completely ignoring all of this country's problems?
     
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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    Accepting for the sake of discussion 'innocent lives' term you could start by reducing the causes of why people feel they need to abortions in the first place. I already listed several, (sex ed, contraception, pre-natal care, post natal care) If you just rely on a ban I doubt you will see a significant drop in abortions just like with banning alcohol there were still alcoholics.


    And you don't vote and/or speak out about candidates regarding abortion?
     
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  3. rocketsjudoka

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    This is the biggest problem I have with your position.

    While you are arguing against the abortion you offer up no solutions to addressing the causes of why people feel the need for abortions. You essentially abdicate all responsibility truly reducing abortion except trying to change the law. Your argument is pretty much the same as advocating for prohibition without addressing alcoholism.
     
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  4. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Ding ding ding.
     
  5. ROXTXIA

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    I'll agree on this. ^

    I tend to favor one side over the other, but they're all pretty much beholden to lobbyists, special interest groups, and b.s.
     
  6. glynch

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    Oh, if we just banned the words and nobody argued over politcal issues, then there would be no one running the country and fattening their bank accounts?

    sounds pleasant, but Hughh???
     
  7. Rashmon

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  8. finalsbound

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    i heart you.
     
  9. glynch

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    Truly funny
     
  10. giddyup

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    No, I had an answer; you just didn't like it. It's their child. It's their duty first and foremost-- not yours, not mine, not society's.

    They can arrange a private adoption or they can give the baby up to the state and then it is, in fact, our problem. Opting into adoption takes the parent off the hook, doesn't it?

    In your hysteria, you don't see this?
     
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's a stupid answer. You don't advocate personal responsibility, you advocate your brand of personal responsibility. Abortion is taking personal responsibility for your actions. You just don't like it because all life is precious until it's born, then it's your baby and your problem. You want two sets of rules, the pre-birth rules where you will tell a woman what to do with her body and the post-birth rules where you're on your own woman you should have known better.

    How do you account for taking care of the 50 million aborted fetuses/children that would have been born in your desired scenario?
     
  12. giddyup

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    How is asking the parents to take care of their own creation not advocating personal responsibility? It's not a brand. It's not a version. It's the bottom line.

    Not sure how, where or why you leap to the conclusion that life is only precious up until it is born. I've never said that. I never said that anyone is on their own. I did say it is the primary responsibility of the parents to take care of their creation-- be it first-hand or given up for adoption. There are safety nets in place through faith organizations and through the government but the first line of "offense" should be the parents themselves.

    Most of those fetuses should/would/could have remained in their birth family. Some given up for adoption. I've answered this before; you just refuse to accept the answer. It is the parents' responsibility, not society's.

    Adults shouldn't be allowed to solve their problems by killing the children that they view as the problem.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    so is your definition of adult female any female that can conceive?
     
  14. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Because its none of your damn business. Your religious beliefs shouldn't trump her rights to her body, her fetus, her life, and the manner in which she takes responsibility for it.

    I don't like your answer because it's stupid. What's in place now doesnt work but it's going to work with 50 million more children? Of course it's not. The point stands. You're far more interested in babies being born and the implications of abortion on the value of life than babies being raised and those implications on the value of life.
     
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    by having an unwanted baby you are actually making it society's responsibility.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    Do you know what the first vote any Congressmen makes is? Hint: It is arguably the most important vote.

    Dem/Rep does matter.
     
  17. Dubious

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    Saw this in a Fark.com thread:

    Serious Black (don't know if it's our Serious Black)
    vernonFL: The first is that the Brookings study cannot be trusted because its authors are biased. (Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom called the study a "joke.") The Weekly Standard pushes this line,

    Really? The Brookings Institution?

    Add it to The List

    You got it!

    List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
    (LOPCATGOPATA for short):
    Liberals
    Democrats
    Socialists
    Community Organizers
    Geologists
    Biologists
    Meteorologists
    Climatologists
    Atheists
    Muslims
    Jews
    Satan
    ABC
    NBC
    CNN
    CBS
    PBS
    All of cable news except FNC
    The New York Times
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    The Washington Post
    The Associated Press
    Reuters
    BBC
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    Black People
    Mexicans
    Human Rights Activists
    SCOTUS
    Europe
    Movie Industry
    Television Industry
    Environmentalists
    ACLU
    The United Nations
    Labor Unions
    Colleges
    Teachers
    Professors
    ACORN
    National Endowment for the Arts
    Gays
    Judges
    NPR
    Paleontologists
    Astrophysicists
    Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
    WHO
    WTO
    Inflated tires
    The Honolulu Advertiser
    The Star Bulletin
    Teletubbies
    Sponge Bob and Patrick
    Nobel Prize Committee
    US Census Bureau
    NOAA
    Sesame Street
    Comic Books
    Little Green Footballs
    Video Games
    The Bible
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    The Economist
    The Muppets
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    Bono
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    I like! But you're going to have to explain a few of these, please:

    Sponge Bob and Patrick
    Comic Books
    Pennies
    whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
    Small Business Owners
    Iowa Republicans
    Navy SEALs
    Clint Eastwood
    Robert Deniro
    Tom Hanks

    ...and especially

    Glenn Frey

    You know, just the serious ones.
     
  20. giddyup

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    Saving innocent lives is the business of all of us. Do you just not read? I've held this position for my entire adult life before any significant flirtation with faith around 1991.

    I don't like your answer because it is selfish and cruel and irresponsible.

    If abortion wasn't so casual, maybe there wouldn't be so many. At any rate, if people would assume the primary responsibility for their creations, much of the problem would be solved.

    I don't care how many babies are conceived; I care how many are killed in the aftermath of unplanned or unwanted pregnancy.

    Humane adults should not solve their family planning challenges by killing the little one.

    Damn, I forgot to quote scripture!! :eek:
     

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