Boston Mayor Letter to Chick-Fil-A bashes them over their anti-gay stance

First amendment also guarantees separation of church and state, something that he is advocating ignoring.

 

Do they lobby Congress to pass laws preventing inter-faith marriage nationwide?

The anti-gay lobby keeps trying to make this a free speech issue, but that's a paper tiger. Of course everyone has free speech in this country and you can stand on a corner and shout the N word at the top of your lungs. If someone calls you an ******* or refuses to buy your product or even, within the law, tries to put you out of business, that is free speech too.

All of you whining about those of us being intolerant of intolerant people are being intolerant.

You say what you want and I'll say what I want and soon the laws that Chik-fil-A is throwing their money at will not only not change in the way they want them to, in the bigoted way, in the way that they are spending millions and millions to impose their religious beliefs on the nation, through the law; but in the opposite way, and civil/equal rights will be protected for all, regardless of sexual orientation.

That will be a happy day. But it's a process.

And one must always speak out against bigotry -- not silence it, speak against it.

 

I understand. I also understand that the best way to show this CEO that you don't agree with him is to not spend any of your money at his business.

 

Australia's prime minister is an unwed atheist. I think in the American totem poll atheist are below Muslims, but she does not not support gay marriage.

 

Of course. I wouldn't spend money at an openly racist shop, either, regardless of how they chose to frame it as some silly religious issue.

Eating at Chik Fil A doesn't make you an *******, but openly advocating denying other people civil rights under the guise of "religious liberty" does.

When people ate at Chik Fil A it didn't have anything to do with free speech, it was to support an archaic, shameful worldview that gays are second class citizens. Conservatives are so often on the wrong side of history, it's just that this time it's like a train wreck happening in slow motion and it's so painfully obvious to anyone with a brain.

 

That's exactly the argument the people opposing interracial marriage used to use.

 

Yes, saying allowing gays to be married is inviting the wrath of God is so sweet!

 

There's no real reason to oppose gay marriage. Nowhere where it's been legalized has suffered any moral decay or lessened their quality of life standards.

This is a stubborn bigotry, plain and simple. Hypocrisy from the "liberty and freedom" right wingers that so desperately want to impose their religion on the rest of us.

 

1. The true message of Christianity has not changed, cannot and will not be changed no matter how many directions you believe that it has splintered...otherwise it will cease to be Christianity and become a Cult like religion.

2. Can a Jew be a Muslim Imam and still practice a Judaism on the side?

I don't have to make the decision whether they are Christian or not. The qualifications for ministry are outlined in the scriptures.

How would a lesbian reverend be able preach on the Christian values of chastity, abstinence, lust, sexual immorality and fornication without discrediting herself?

Would she just gloss over the passages where it is written that homosexuality is an abomination to God, shameful, vile, immoral and that it is practiced those with a debased or reprobate mind?

How could she call the lost to repentance and urge them to resist the temptations of the flesh if she herself wasn't repentant and was still practicing what is contrary to the scriptures?
Her integrity would be on trial.


As a Christian we are called to be a reflection of Christ, as best we can.
So I ask you the question, based on the evidence of the scriptures, and the outlines / standards for ministry (a great outline is found in Timothy) do you truly believe that one can be a practicing homosexual and devoted practicing Christian? (or Christian minister)

 

He's trying damn hard to do that, yes.

He is donating exorbitant amounts of money to an organization whose primary purposes include all manner of strategies to pass laws preventing gay marriage.

So the answer is not Cathy is not stopping gay marriage but he is spending a ton of money attempting to do just that, to make gay marriage illegal.

That is his right. As a speech issue he could also try to ban "the blacks" and spend all the money on that as he wants.

But why a black person (or anyone that doesn't hate black people) would ever eat at his restaurant in that case is beyond any of us. And yet we're still on the fence with the gays. That's where we are at as a society right now. It is the civil rights era for gays right now. Happy day.

And by the way juicystream, when you said gays have the same rights as the rest of us, you forgot a few things:

- In many states in America it is still legal to refuse to hire or to fire someone because you don't like their sexual orientation.
- In many states it is legal to deny housing to gays simply because they are gay.
- The same is true of adoption.
- Marriage

In other words, there are no federal anti-discrimination laws that include sexual orientation. Only a year ago, one could not serve one's country in the military if he were gay. Only two years ago, one could not visit one's dying life partner in the hospital if his life partner were of his same sex.

This is all going to change and to the better. And fast.

But to say they have equal rights now? r****ded.

 

I perform marriages.

I personally would not marry two men or two women or siblings or a son and mother or a father and daughter.

So throw stones you who are without sin.

 

Boom. Roasted.

 

Thats your prerogative. Equating homosexuality with incest is kinda silly though. Do you want to make gay sex illegal?

As posted above, there are still churches that wont marry blacks. Thats not the issue, the issue is with marriage as a legal contract, and there simply is no valid reason to keep gays from having the right to enter into it.

 

Let go of the hate baby

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Wrong wrong wrong

There you go again trying to compare this to blacks' civil rights struggle. Gay marriage is NOT a civil right. Obama has even said that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XAVqrqr4j4).

More intolerance from the liberals...

 

And that is your right under the First Amendment. To my knowledge no one is forcing you to marry a man and a man or a woman and a woman and no matter how the state laws change regarding marriage you will still be able to determine who you as a pastor will marry.

 

Spoiler

GOODNIGHT Y'ALL!!!

 

For someone so impassioned about calling anyone who disagrees with you a bigot, you sure picked a weird forum. Or do you do this on other sites, as well? How much time does that take?

Personally, I don't really care, but my church does, as does its parishioners. To allow it would be detrimental, so there is that. I'd really prefer that Gov't define all of these as civil unions, or just get out of the marriage business, altogether. After all, this has much more to do with the Gov't's stance. You know this, right?

Why should you care what my church thinks of it? Why should anyone?

As to discrimination? I simply don't see it. And I don't see any "civil rights" being taken away. But hyperbole is always a good tool for the impassioned.

 

I am not silly.
I don't care about making anything illegal.
My son is black as are some church members that's not the issue.

 

opposing what ability? the ability to marry? of course not. Do you oppose humans marrying dogs? Do you oppose polygamy? Does this make you a bigot? You are 'opposing the ability' (whatever that means) for some human.