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Boston Mayor Letter to Chick-Fil-A bashes them over their anti-gay stance

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RedRedemption, Jul 25, 2012.

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  1. IzakDavid13

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    You got it wrong, I don't hate gay people, but you are so quick to judge and throw out assumptions.

    But this has nothing to do with whether you love, hate, agree or disagree with homosexuals and their push for same sex marriage. This thread is about someone in politics strong arming a business owner, denying a permit to operate in a location based solely on the business owners religious belief in regards to homosexuality and gay marriage.

    Would the Boston Mayor dare to deny application for a mosque or madrassa because of Islam's views in regards to homosexuality?

    I don't think so.

    But as usual, people on the gay agenda bandwagon choose to railroad the argument with name calling, insults & unrelated arguments to shift attention away from the real issue...because you are too proud, or blinded by the gay rainbow, to admit the truth.

    And the truth is what the Boston mayor did was wrong ethically, morally, legally and constitutionally.

    As far as I know, people in government are there to serve all their constituents, not show favouritism to one group over another, maybe it is different in the USA.
     
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    LOVE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    What hate? Gays/Lesbians are served at Chick-fil-A just the same as anyone else. Gays/Lesbians are hired at Chick-fil-A just the same as anyone else. Not one bit of intolerance and thus no bigotry. Refusing to let Chick-fil-A do business because of their owner's stance on marriage would be intolerant. It's like everything MLK did/say went right over your head. King even had a similar view to Cathy regarding homosexuality

     
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    Why thank you kind sir. I aim to please.:grin:
     
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    How legally has Mayor Menino denied Chik-Fil-A from getting a permit?

    Since you are an Australian do you understand how Federalism works under the US Constitution?
     
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    How did you feel about the so-called Ground Zero mosque?

    Then maybe they should let gay people get maried if they are there to serve all their constituents.
     
  8. CometsWin

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    It's funny how the business owner has the right to his morality but an elected official doesn't have a right to his unless we're talking about abortion of course.
     
  9. juicystream

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    My problem with the Mayor, is that a) He wrote a letter and then published it proving it was politically motivated and b) He spoke like he was the city of Boston.

    Nothing wrong with the Mayor saying that he disagrees Dan Cathy.
     
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    Haha. So opposing the ability of gays or hell the blacks or Jews or any other group is not intolerance or bigotry? I just want to get you on the record.
     
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    How is what Mayor Menino did legal, if Chk-fil-A is denied a permit?


    The Aussie model of federalism is very close to original model of the United States of America, the major difference being that we use a Westminster system.

    I personally would prefer he American model, with a President. We are stuck with a flawed (IMO) system run by a coalition of parties, with the Prime Minister held to ransom by the Greens and independents in order to stay in power. Absurd.

    Our Prime Minister...The Liar Julia Gillard
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    I dont have a problem with it. Leaders come out all the time with their opinions on things and their policies reflect that. Just like people can boycott a place they can vote this guy out. Cathy is motivated to make a profit from his comments so everyone has their motivation.
     
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    There are religions that don't believe in marrying outside of your religion, I don't think of them as intolerant, it is just what they believe.
     
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    This is a governmental issue though. If some church doesn't want to marry a gay couple because it's their belief then I still think that's hateful but they're free to do that.
     
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    Dan Cathy isn't the government. Chick-fil-a is not a government entity.

    This is not a government issue. Gay marriage itself is, but his comments are not.
     
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    His comments were about gay marriage, no? Given the state of the issue I'm assuming he doesn't simply oppose gay marriage in his church but the government's recognition of it as well.
     
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    Regarding the Ground Zero Mosque...what do you think?
    Would Saudi Arabia allow a church to be built in Mecca?


    Yes they are there to serve all their constituents, but majority still rules.

    In Australia we already have gay unions, that receive close to all of the benefits and all the rights of straight couples, but by definition Marriage is regarded as sacred, a holy matrimony between a man and a woman.

    You can quote all the divorce figures and statistics that you like, but it doesn't change that fact, marriage is, has always been the sacred act of holy matrimony between a man and a woman, and in my opinion should always be the sacred act of holy matrimony between a man and a woman.

    If gays were granted the right to get married, then Christians no longer decided to call their marriages 'marriage' but chose another name for it..example CHRISTIAN UNIFICATION, or getting UNIFIED...would gays then demand the right to CHRISTIAN UNIFICATION or to get UNIFIED?

    If gays were given the 'gay union', as in Australia, with all the rights of married heterosexual couples, would they still demand the right to call it marriage? And why? Is it for acceptance? Is it to give legitimacy to their relationship?

    If a Christian Pastor, an Imam or a priest refused to marry a gay couple, would they be sued? Would they be labeled bigots, hypocrites, homophobes or intolerant?
     
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    For most modern self-identified "Christians," God wears a business suit and heaven is a legislative chamber. Congratulations, you now worship a political platform.

    It's a shame really.
     
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    Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

    You are allowed to have an opinion and be a bigot for that. Fact is, that you are intolerant of gays. You don't see them as having the same rights as you do. That's intolerance of another not based on anything but their gender orientation. That is by definition bigotry.

    It's like saying black people shouldn't be able to marry in our church. The reason doesn't matter. Having that opinion is a right for sure. But it also makes them bigots.

    You may not hate gays, but clearly you do not tolerate them as equals either. And that's all you got to be to be a bigot. Congrats.
     
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    That same church believes governments should not recognize gay marriage.

    Dan Cathy can cast only one vote. Same as you.
     

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