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Seriously the IOC are ****ing pathetic. Set the rules before hand not as you go along and this would never have happen. I see this in Hockey during the Winter Olympic or International where teams lose on purpose so that that might not face a top team. Don't really see what's the problem here.
Current standings at that little basketball tournament in London: Men: http://london2012.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/12/olym/p/eid//sid/6232/group-standing.html Women: http://london2012.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/12/olym/p/eid//sid/6233/group-standing.html
haha Spain soccer team didnt score a goal in the Olympics. and they were the favorites to be in the finals.
Apparently so. I wonder how Phelps lover ItsMyFault feels about this given his disdain of China and all the rest of the countries. :grin:
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/2012-olympics-wu-minxias-family-kept-secrets-chinese-diver F***** up, they must have not have any souls in China.
Got the Dean Cain thing going... Elsewhere in the Olympics racial draft: American Gymnast Kyla Ross: 1/4 black, 3/4 Asian. German Gymnast Marcel Nguyen: 1/2 Vietnamese.
I am not saying it is alright but pointing out that I think these players are being punished for something that happens all the time and that it is hypocritical for them to be punished. Also that the coaches and organizations should be held to account more than the players. Except they were doing something that was meant to improve their long term chances of winning Gold. Within the rules as set up they were competing as hard as possible for the overall goal of standing on the podium at the end of the tournament and not just for one game. I suspect getting a medal is far more important for national pride than winning one qualifying round game. As for feeling proud I am neither proud or ashamed of what they did. I am not a Chinese, Korean or Indonesian citizen, nor am I a badmitton player, also as I said I would probably be booing too if I was in the audience. That said I can understand why they did. I am curious though what most Chinese would feel if they had played to win, won, and it resulted in a worse position in the elimination round pairing? Again you have to consider this tanking in the NBA. Judging just by Clutchfans GARM most clutchfans don't agree with tanking but the vast majority of Clutchfans are not happy with the Rockets not getting good draft positions just because they won a few more games in the regular season. My point is is that this is a systemic problem with the the tourney rules. These players handled things poorly but they were operating with the rules as they knew them. The IOC is turning around and kicking them out for something that isn't technically illegal.
China wants the involved players and coaches to apologize in public, one of the players retired because of the incident. Guess China is with the IOC on this one.
I think it is safe to say the career of the coaches and these two players are done in China. I fully expect the head coach to resign after the Olympics. To China face is more important than the careers of a few people, really feel sad for these players, all they did was follow the orders.
I am not sure if you have seen that match. You can find it on nbcolympics.com badminton->reply. They were standing not moving, serving the ball out of bounds, and saving the ball the other side served out of bounds. That doesn't happen all the time does it. They were warned multiple times not to do that, but guess what. Their attitude was so bad. Again, they breached the bottom line for sportsman conduct. They were not punished b/c they had this little strategy in order to win later, rather, they were punished b/c how they did it. Again, it's a matter of degree. I understand tanking, but putting ball in your own baskets in the name of tanking, to me is different and should be punished. That's the equivalent of what those badminton players did.
I am not a badminton player so I don't know the rules but was what they were doing technically against the rules? I have not seen anything that says that, and frankly as a referee for another sport I think it was wrong of the referee to cite them if it wasn't against the rules. I will give you two examples. I once refereed a Judo match where one of the players was very tired and nursing an injury. I overheard him whispering to the other player to throw him, resulting in the first player being thrown for an Ippon (automatic win) while offering no resistance. Now that certainly wasn't in the spirit of competition but it wasn't illegal and I had no basis to sanction him. Another Judo example. As a player and a coach I emphasize the ground work portion (wrestling) as much as the standing throwing portion. A lot of Judo players don't like the ground work portion either because they aren't as good and /or they feel the reward isn't worth the risk. I had a match where I was playing a guy who was a much better stand up player than me, he knew though I was a tougher ground player. I got him onto the ground and rather than engage me he backpedalled as fast as he could out of bounds to reset us to standing. He wasn't penalized for it but it raised a few laughs from the audience. In the end he won the match on a throw. I and others can say that was cowardly and disrespectful to the spirit of competition but it was within the rules and it paid off for him.