[ClutchFans] Houston Rockets Salary Cap Update: "Total Rebuild" Edition

Which is why I hope Orlando waits until the deadline to trade Dwight. I think it will be tough for Morey to trade Lamb or D-Mo if they have impressive starts next season.

 

In a way, they have more to lose at the deadline than we do; which is why they'll probably move him in August.

 

If he had any pride in his behavior, he wouldn't be acting like this in the first place.

 

Pride is what is driving this whole thing mate. Dwight wants to:

1. Be a worldwide figure on par with Lebron. (Pride)
2. Make as much or more money than Lebron. (Pride)
3. Win more than Lebron. (Pride)

in no particular order.

It's all about pride.

 

Based on the fact that Morey never budged to get Brandon Rush when he could have offered him a contract that Golden State would not have matched, I have to assume the proposed trade involves JRich and possibly Duhon or QRich coming back with Dwight. And based on that assumption, I can see where we could set the trade up to get a TPE the size of Martin's contract out of the deal.

Morey is probably drawing the line at only taking on JRich's boat anchor deal and Hennigan is probably holding out for someone to take both JRich and Big Baby off his hands.

 

Getting J-Rich while shipping out Martin, picks, and a young guy is a pretty sweet deal. Even if it would only be for a rental (which I doubt). Although, I would much rather watch the young guys grow up.

 

He should take pride in how he conducts himself when trying to reach his goals. He doesn't.

 

I suspect the vast majority of the players in the NBA want those same things. I don't see them in the news.

 

It's a different when you are talking about arguably the second best player on the planet who would like to outwin and outearn the best player on the planet.

 

Yep. People act like dream wasnt calling the rockets liars after they said he was faking an injury. The best thing for orlando to do is keep howard all the way thru the season. If he fakes the injury, they will suck and get a high lotto pick. If he comes out and plays hard, then they can sign and trade him in the offseason. I wouldnt trade Howard and I wouldn care what anyone would say.

 

I don't understand it either and I'm a Howard guy. If somehow the rockets couldve at least got a visit from williams, then get him to sign, that wouldve been enough to go forward and get howard. That didn't happen and its not the rockets fault, but howard isn't resigning with the rockets at all. Jopatmc has this delusion and think a guy wont walk to the situation he wants to be in and he's wrong. Lebron and bosh both did it.

 

Plus that whole "hit-the-sweet-salary at age 31" deal. DH can target the max-reachable on a 5-yr deal next off season.

 

And if Howard walks, we will still have options, including signing a max free agent.

And if Howard walks, we could agree to trade him to Brooklyn after re-signing him to a 5-year deal with max raises, after the 6 months is up, if we like the deal better than the capspace when he walks.

The new CBA along with the ignorance of GMs to the long term consequences is going to limit the power of agents and players as well as big market teams.

Dwight has limited options.

 

The fact that dallas and atl can sign him outright and those are 2 places he wants to go tells me.just my gut, that he will do it.

Look, I would be less that trutchful to say money doesn't matter, it do to a point. He's not going to stay somewhere he doesn't want to be for 5 years,imo. LBJ and Bosh were sign and trades, but miami had enough money to sign them outright. The sign and trade for that extra year was just a bone and back rub. Howard is 26-27, right? He has another max deal in his body. If he has to do a 4 yr deal with dallas, thats not the worse thing. Tim duncan always did 4 yr deals to keep the pressure on the spurs.

 

I bet you would make a fine poker player. We should play sometime.

 

Those are two places he wants to go? For starters, there hasn't been ANY indication of ANY Howard interest in Atlanta. None whatsoever. At most, it's one place, and the lunatic idea that Dallas has any shot at contention with Howard has already been debunked in several threads.

Second, it's fairly obvious that a shorter deal IS the worst thing for Dwight Howard, particularly after back surgery. Why do you think Dwight opted in at the deadline, then suddenly demanded to be traded again the second the season ended? He was six weeks from complete freedom and joining Deron in Brooklyn. He passed it up, however, because he thought he could manipulate Orlando into trading him there in order to keep his Bird rights and squeeze out every dollar/year. He knew Morey wouldn't play ball if he were dealt to Houston, so he decided to try his luck again with the Magic.

Does this guarantee that he stays in Houston? No. But if you don't think that the extra year and max raises matters that much, you're not paying attention.

PS: The only places Dwight legitimately "wants to go" are Brooklyn and LA. If Howard were truly interested in Dallas, why not push for a trade there this summer, alongside the other two? I firmly believe that if the roles were reversed, and Dallas had the young assets to trade for Dwight now, you'd hear Houston or another team with max cap room next summer leveraged against the Mavs. The only consideration Dwight's team is concerned with, at this stage, is what gets him to Brooklyn or LA this year.

 

You aren't invited to our poker game.

 

Money has done all the talking for him, that's why I'd take the gamble.

 

Is Atlanta actually in the mix? If he'd allow a trade there next year, wouldn't he go for it now?

Bima, I know you're more of a capologist than a "how about this trade?" kinda guy, but...

(Actually, feel free, anyone, to crap on this)...

Would we have any interest in facilitating a 3 way trade with Orlando and Atlanta?

Where we give up "what's right" (for example, Martin's expiring, some of our young talent and/or Toronto 1st rounder), for say, Horford (a legit 4/5 who could play those other 22-24 minutes at center as well as minutes at the 4) and Jrich.

Atlanta gets Howard and, say, Big Baby and gives up our future 1st rounder and their own future 1st(s) to Orlando, plus expiring contracts. If they don't stay, Howard + buddy JSmith have huge expirings for next year.

Granted, Horford's not Howard, but he's no slouch either. And we wouldn't be throwing away so much of our young talent for a dude who seems hellbent on NY or LA. And we'd still have a good collection of players/picks for Morey to play with in the future.

Or does Morey have the bit in his teeth and it's "Howard-or-bust" (Howard-AND-bust, when he tries to force his way out next year, in my opinion, but oh well)?