Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

All things equal, Dallas has the edge (barring Morey making wizard-like moves with our assets), but I'd say the bird rights would give us a pretty hefty advantage, unless Morey just craps the bed and surrounds Dwight with nothing but scrubs a year from now.

 

Not to be a prick but seriously, how would he be losing out on a lot of money if he signs an extension with his current team (or the team he's traded to for that matter)?

 

I don't think this is true. It all depends on how much we give up to get him. If we don't give up much, then I think that it could be very easy to surround him with better talent than the Mavericks.

The Mavericks basically purged their entire roster with the arrogant hopes that Deron Williams and Dwight would sign there as F.A.'s but since no D-Will and an OLD-er Dirk plus an almost completely bare cupboard to work with, there's not much reason to go to Dallas unless Dwight is secretly a HUGE fan of the Red-River Rivalry....

 

Dallas can keep dreaming.

 

Dude has only been healthy one year. Better long-term security for an injury prone player.

 

The problem with most of these logical type analyses is that they assume Dwight is completely logical.

Markets are not rational, contrary to what some would have you believe. Markets operate in the balance between fear and greed. Dwight is perfectly capable of making an illogical decision based on emotion. Perhaps he just thinks Cuban is "cool" and wants to be there. If some whimsey is insanely stupid, I'm sure Fegan would try to talk him out of it, but ultimately, Dwight is free to act as illogically as he would like. He's already proven a propensity towards such behavior when he signed the opt-in. And perhaps if an illogical action would personally be a better choice for Fegan or whomever, he might even encourage it.

Not saying that he would definitely make a an irrational decision on the basis of emotion, but very clearly, "Dwight Howard ≠ Mr. Spock".

 

Please clue me in. Missed it. What has happened to Dakota?

 

If your howard's camp you want:

A) to be traded to the Nets once lopez become available for trade

If that doesnt happen

B) To be traded to the Lakers

If that doesn't happen then apparently it's

C) go to Dallas as a FA

- If Orlando keeps him only C is possible
- If Hou trades for him only C is possible unless Hou trades him to Brooklyn or LA before the deadline (which I'm sure Dwights camp would consider as an unlikely event)

So why would Dwights camp purposefully tell Houston to back off with a threat to walk to Dallas? It'd only be to take Hou out as a destination leaving only Brooklyn or LA as the remaining options. Which tells me options A and B are valued much more by Dwights camp than option C (otherwise if it was a highly viable and valuable option just shut up and walk at the end of the season).

So it makes sense to threaten Hou with a walk to Dallas if you see A or B as significantly better than C. The only question is how big of a value difference is there between options C and D (resigning in Hou) once A & B are no longer options.

 

That actually wasn't illogical, just stupid because it showed his hand. He opted in for the max money. If he hadn't he could have just walked this off season to sign with the Nets. He didn't because he wanted Orl to trade him there for max money. He opted in to buy more time for him to be traded there. But now we all he's about the guaranteed max $$ first and foremost, after that then he's about the market.

 

Some may take your post as a joke on D12's inability to be rational when it's needed, but I actually think you make a point that throughout this entire Dwightmare crap has yet to be made.

We tend to either look at things as a Rockets fan, or with some sort of hint of "this is what I would do", but in actuality Dwight's re-upping with Orlando last year is the perfect example of just how dumb his decision making can be at times.

It is well known that one of his major problems with Orlando is not that they suck, but it's that they have sucked for a long time and he doesn't think they will ever make the moves necessary to not suck.

Which from that statement alone makes his plan to consider owners who have a history of just getting the job done or at least willing to spend the money to get the job done. Those teams are LA, Dallas, Miami, NY, and Brooklyn. From a players perspective Houston is viewed as a place that doesn't get the job done, (due to Yao and Mac tying up the roster) and at times doesn't treat their players well (thanks T-Mac), Miami will never have the money for Dwight to play there, neither will New York, so that leaves 3 teams LA, Brooklyn, and Dallas. He can only go to LA or Brooklyn through trade so if he's not traded to one of these 2 teams then by process of elimination he has no choice but to go to Dallas

 

Dwight will get the most money and a guaranteed fifth year if he waits until the off-season to sign an extension with his current team. He would quickly sign said contract with the Lakers, but I am not so sure he would with the Magic. The Magic would want to hear from Bynum that he will re-sign with them before any trade. He has no incentive to give them that.

 

I believe he got the ban hammer for have 2 accounts and accidently signing his DD at the both of his other account and got caught

 

Wow my post was bad , one to man beers I guess. Anyway he had 2 account and signed his post DD on the wrong one

 

Before the Howard camp said he would walk to Mavs, I said it in the forum that he would walk to Mavs if he decided not to resign with Rox. At that time people thought I was nut .... And I said it would be either rox or mavs for him if he got traded here.

My opinion are much the same while on the one side I agreed with primtim.

On the the other side, if Morey can trade for Howard in a reasonable amount of assets and cap space. Morey still have a chance to persuade him to stay, if he makes some smart move on the mid-season to upgrade the roster, and Les shows him that he is willing to open his pockets to win a champ.

 

It is just as simple as that if the rockets get Howard, and fail to upgrade their roster during the season Howard is very likely to walk Mavs.

If the rockets get Howard and are able to make significant upgrade on the roster, Howard will likely to stay. (be prepared to say good bye to one or two of our rooks in this case.)

The assets the rockets give up for Howard will have a great impact on the rox's capability of making roster upgrade. I guess Morey already has a list of player names and price to add after the Howard trade.

 

P'p'p'p'p'poker face.

 

Dwight won't walk to the Mavs almost no matter what. Only if the Magic are idiots and hold onto him then refuse to sign & trade him. He won't leave for the Mavs from Houston no matter what his "camp" is saying right now.

 

Ding ding ding ding ding ding. By then things could get really ugly.

 

Why not?

 

I really dont think we would have to give up 2 rookies. Orlando wants a home run deal for him, but there aren't any out there atm. Why outbid ourselves? If there is a team out there that will offer a lottery pick + additional first founders and some young players, an expiring like martin, and take back some bad contracts then im sure we would offer more.