Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

I've been reading essentially the same thing every couple of days for the past month and a half. I'll believe it when it happens.

Otherwise, I'll start paying attention at the end of September or start of October.

 

Y'all think that tweet by FSO has any relevance?

is it a hint at the 3 way between LA, Orlando and Cleveland?

 

I have a feeling DMo will be part of the deal. Did anyone ever confirm that Lamb signed?

 

Yes, all three Rockets rookies signed.

No, Sam Amico isn't [very] reliable.

 

If a deal happens next week then it's probably Orl/LA or Orl/LA/Cle,I can't imagine it's us because all of our rookies can't be traded till Aug.26th.

 

They can't be traded but a deal can still be made in principle, with the trade being official by August 26th. Just with the Donte Greene-Artest trade.

 

Re: the "Wins Produced" chart:

I don't doubt that Howard is worth 15 wins+, but WP is a pretty flawed stat for various reasons.

For one, like PER, it doesn't account for individual defensive (and granted that's kinda hard to do with the stats currently available to the public).
Also, and maybe most importantly it overrates additional possessions (high REB%, low TO%) and shooting efficiency and gives very little credit to guys who can create for themselves or others, which is the reason why you will find so many low usage/high efficiency or low usuage/high rebound guys on that list.

WP may have a purpose in terms of evaluating the offensive capabilities of role players, but as an all-for-one stat it's pretty flawed.

 

The processing paperwork date is irrelevant to this. When guys like Amico discuss a hypothetical date that Dwight "will be traded", they are referring to a verbal agreement. Just like 2008, when Donte Greene was dealt for Artest in a trade the entire world knew about on July 30, but not made 100% "official" until August 14. Same thing as the early July moratorium - we knew about the Joe Johnson and Steve Nash trades on July 2 and July 4, but they weren't processed until 10+ days later.

A deal can very easily "happen" this week involving any of the Houston rookies.

 

I can't wait until this is all over.

 

My question is this: What if they amnesty Gasol instead? and that will give them 50 million and under cap. And if they trade Blake and World Peace (both on their last year) for picks, they would have 39 million in only 2 players. I believe Lakers also have their MLE. Lakers can also structured their contract with first year light and bottom heavy to compensate. If not then sign a one-year for 15, restructure next year. That would give them 55 with core of Nash, Kobe, D12, room enough to pick up 3 decent player (w/ MLE) and rest on vet min.

Teams like Denver (contenders w/ lots of cap room), if they are making a serious playoff run could pick up vet players like Metta or Blake(last year contract) for a second round pick. A definite possibility.

I know above scenerio is unlike. But my point is: it is still a possibility.

Hawks fans thought there was no possible way to move JJ's contract, but they did. If people coming to this discussion who won't entertain the thought of possibility, then it's really fruitless to go further.

 

Just give it up man. Even if the Lakers got rid of everyone on their roster except for Kobe and Nash, they would still have $39 Mil in salary between those two. With 10 minimum cap holds they would have a cap figure of $43.5, also losing their MLE by doing so as that is reserved for teams over the cap.
With the current cap set at $58 Mil, they could offer Dwight $14.5 Mil as a starting salary. It's not possible for them to offer Dwight a max salary even if they did everything you described above. Even if they wanted to backload that contract to Dwight the CBA limits the amount of raises a contract can have.

 

Thank you, case closed.

Dwight needs to be traded to the Lakers to play there. Same goes for Brooklyn. AKA he's screwed if Orlando/us don't want to play ball.

 

There's never been a player even half as valuable as Gasol to be amnestied, so that's incredibly unlikely. But even in that scenario, what rebuilding team would take on MWP and/or Blake, much less give up picks? Those guys are each old and terrible. They had PERs of 11 and 8 last year!

PS: In your hypothetical, besides the fact that Denver already has players significantly better than MWP/Blake, you have to factor in the new McGee and Miller contracts with the data here, along with a likely extension to Lawson. They're not going to have room to simply take on MWP.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/denver.htm

There's a reason the Lakers are working so hard to try and trade for Dwight this summer, offering Bynum to basically anyone with a pulse to facilitate a three-team deal. They HAVE to have a trade to make it happen.

 

Luis wasn't at least HALF as valuable as Gasol... jus cold, man.... lol

 

Thanks for your explanation. I have a better grasp of this new CBA.

Here is what comes down to for D12 and his preference:
- first option to the Lakers is now, via 3-way trades
- second option to Nets in Jan when Lopez is tradable
- Mavs after the season, as Nets Laker options closed
- warned Houston not to trade him

Even though we have the best offer in the market, Morey will not facilitate Lakers for D12.

Let see how this will pan out.

 

Yup. Dwight could walk after the season, but it won't be to LA. Would he take less money for Dallas or Atlanta? Possible, but certainly not a sure thing. That's why the Rockets are willing to take the gamble.

 

There are options to trade him as well right. To teams such as Dallas or Atlanta so that the Rockets can get something in return.

 

The only problem is what could Dallas possibly give back?

 

I'd assume you mean in a sign and trade? It's possible, but Dwight has no incentive to do that deal. He won't get a bigger contract.

 

I hope this is finally ending and I hope it's the Rockets.