2Pat is going to play in the NBA a long time as long as his body holds up. Then he could go into coaching like you said I'm sure. Lets not retire the young man too soon ok!. zzpot
not sure thats right but... You are missing the McHales bench rotation without 2 to 3 months of working these guys out. zzpot
College sports may be a program, but it is also a program to give an EDUCATION to people that would never have a chance to pay for a higher Ed. Players don't have to declare for the "ONE AND DONE DRAFT"!!! The Rockets are teaching these young guys like crazy. "Get Better" or die fast.!! How about this... Take advantage of everything we (A pro sports team has) have to offer or suffer and burn your way out of a NBA career. Every year 30 teams draft in 30 players for the US and now they have overseas players they can pick from.. Fight or die. Best of the best world wide. Thats why Morey and his team are scouting the talent pool in the UK Olympics right now.. F the Dnightmare crap life goes on so to speek. zzpot.
What an enthusiasm and optimism a simple interview can create! Great guy though, hope he steps it up, big time this year being one of per default leader now.
It's crossed my mind that Patterson may truly thrive as the "senior" player on this team. He is a very well spoken player, who seems to be a natural leader. Im hoping his pride as a team leader transfers into elevated play on the court.
Two things: 1. I'm pretty sure the players on our team, particularly those like Patterson, who are actually taking lessons on how to improve in the post from McHale, have a better idea of how good McHale is at coaching post moves than you do. When, exactly, did McHale coach you? 2. I'm sure Dream is an excellent coach and nobody had more low post moves than he did (and never doubt that he is as close to a god as any athlete can be in my mind) - but the thing is, a lot of what Dream did cannot be coached. Dream had athleticism, quickness and instincts that cannot be taught. And his footwork, which I've read was largely a result of his upbringing as a soccer player, would be exceedingly difficult to learn. So I would think somebody like McHale, who was a whole lot less impressive as a natural athlete and had to learn to excel within those limitations, would probably be better at coaching than somebody who can't even relate to the limitations of the average NBA player. And make no mistake, Dream cannot relate to most players limitations. I would think Dream trying to teach Asik his post-moves would be similar to a bird trying to teach a snake to fly.
Pat once said that he looked up to Chuck Hayes, or something along those lines. Hopefully he can evolve his game into something like Hayes, improve his team defense, communication, and passing skills. Bring some of that McHale toughness onto the floor and start banging and bruising, this young team will need a guy like that. A post game would be nice, but his shooting touch is already there, maybe he can stretch out to the 3 point line this year.
If your going to ask dumb questions then you deserve dumb answers! Mchale coached me the same day he coached you.... remember? It's obvious that you to took offense to me stating that he is not a good teacher, but the proof is in the pudding! He's had a whole year to instruct/teach our big men....which one of our young guys made progress?Hill,Morris, Thabeet,they wer all 1st round draft picks....which one?
First, I'm not offended that you attacked McHale. What prompted my response was that you presented your opinions (that seem to be based on some really absurd assumptions - but more on that later) as fact while offering absolutely no supporting evidence to back your claim. And really? The same day he coached me? The difference between you and I is that I'm just pointing out what we've all heard players and commentators say - that McHale is a good big man coach. I also offered some reasoning behind why I believe that's probably true. A.) I have heard many players say it. B.) He's a Hall of Fame big man who didn't have the natural ability of Hakeem and, thus, must have an incredible understanding of basketball fundamentals to have achieved the level of success he achieved. But, let's kill a couple birds with one stone here. I'm going to offer one more argument to support that claim that also happens to counter your ridiculous question as to why Thabeet, Hill and Morris showed no improvement when he had "a whole year" to train them. But first, you trolling? You really can't be serious about this. Thabeet, Hill and Morris? Really? But I'll assume you're serious. Fact: McHale did NOT have a whole year to work with Thabeet, Hill and Morris. He had no summer league. He had no training camp. In his only season as the Rockets head coach, he had a shortened pre-season and a shortened season. Additionally, Thabeet and Hill were both traded before the deadline in a lockout shortened season (another fact). He didn't even have a full lockout shortened season to work with them. On top of that, I don't care of we invent a robot that can be programmed to contain the accumulated knowledge of George Mikan, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson and Shaq, placed it in a gym with a trapped Hasheem Thabeet and 365 days of food and water, and locked the doors - Hasheem Thabeet would still suck. We could do the same to Hill and he'd probably suck less, but still suck. As for Morris, it doesn't look good - but many seem to think he was being molded to play small forward anyway. Regardless, the verdict is still out until Morris at least has a full summer league, training camp and season under his belt. Finally, you know who McHale did have more than a full season with? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_dtm2rlV_E
Uhh BamBam Hill improved? Thabeet didn't get playing time so we can't judge if he improved or not.. Morris isn't a post player?? And if you say some stupid **** like "then why did Hill get traded if he improved"....
1)Garnett came straight out of high school playing against high school kids! Yes,the video shows Mchale apparently teaching Garnett some moves and I don't doubt that he might of learned a thing or two from those sessions but I think he was going to show progress with Mchale or anyone else! I don't think Mchale in itself is why Garnett is a future hall of famer He needed some tutoring but the potential was obvious....that's why he was picked 5th in the 95' draft..... 2)As far as players and commentators comments, well there is no denying he's respected as a Hall of Famer and from the Celtics non the less. If you want to believe he's a great teacher go ahead, but until I see for myself that our big men are improving I won't believe he's a good/great teacher. 3)Your right!...Yes your right he didn't have a full year with two of our big men,regardless I didn't see any improvement from any part of the season. Maybe his method of teaching takes a whole year or more for any improvement to come to fruition? Last I took the time to address you because I wanted to have dialogue. Whether right or wrong I've giving my opinion, but Ive'd tried not to go in attack mode. Trying to belittle my opinion won't change how I think, but it will affect any further dialogue between us.
You gotta be kidding me ... Sound's to me like you're just a hater and no matter what he did you'd probably slam him. I agree his substitution patterns and lineups were suspect,but to judge him on that is beyond unfair.Short camp and with the condensed season they never had time to even practice.. When the hell was he supposed to turn around a no heart bust like Thabeet ? You can't coach desire into someone,no matter how hard you try.
PPat will be traded...I gave him a hard time on twitter for our losing streak at the end of the year and he blocked me on twitter lol
He did a communications degree didn't he? He seems a very mature and well spoken guy. Really hope he can develop a solid post game to with his sweet jumper
1. What's the problem then? You're acknowledging that when a player had the work ethic and talent, McHale probably was able to help him develop. Nobody has ever claimed he's some magical miracle worker who can make lousy players into good players. Nobody can do that. You basically just acknowledged he's a coach that players can benefit from working with. As an aside - there isn't a single case in the history of professional sports in which working with a coach/trainer has been solely responsible for the ability/success of an athlete. Dream benefited from working with Moses Malone but nobody would ever claim that Dream wouldn't have been good regardless. He had the determination and natural talent. Nobody could have stopped Hakeem from being great - but Moses Malone definitely helped him get there. That's all a coach can do; help a player progress and reach their potential within their own limitations. 2. You're now saying that you refuse to believe what people within his profession who, in many cases, have personal experience working with him, are saying about him because you, who are most likely not within his profession, noticed that, in a single shortened season, three terrible players remained pretty terrible (though Hill actually did show some progress, he was just terribly inconsistent). Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. 3. Thanks. Finally, I didn't insult you. There was no name-calling. I was as civil as I know how to be. But c'mon, there are very few people that wouldn't think that expecting the guys you listed to show remarkable improvement in a single shortened season is unreasonable. In fact, most would say that's flat out ludicrous. HASHEEM THABEET! Dream himself has worked with him (google it). Thabeet is still Thabeet. I genuinely wondered if you were trolling. I really did. It seems that unreasonable to me to list those guys as your examples. So if you were genuine and I seemed condescending - I... wait, no. I can't apologize for that. REALLY, BRO? HASHEEM THABEET? JORDAN HILL?
