Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

But as of today we're the coolest city in the country

 

Could we fleece jersey out of brook lopez in a three way deal?

 

Death by shnu-shnu... I see what you did there.

 

Wasn't Fegan Hakeem's agent?

 

LOL.. so you think the vegas bookies are getting some inside info ?

Maybe,but I'm gonna say it's more likely they are just covering their ass just in case.

 

We're actually like the 5th largest NBA Market I believe...after NYC, LA, Chi and Boston..thanks in part to the Chinese market so I think that is a perception that will hopefully change.

 

market, not his big but desirable . If he gets la or Brooklyn adidas will cream themselves. They paid rose 150 million to be an endorser , if he goes anywhere else he can only dream of getting close to that number. Its not market size its desirability. Toronto is a better market than Miami but we know each teams fates. One team can't stop recruiting , the other has to beg people

 

So true. LOL

 

I think it will take a while for the Lin market to kick in and that might change the perception of Houston's market. Too bad Yao retired before we could land another superstar.

Dan Fegan's clients currently affiliated with Houston:

Kevin Martin
Courtney Lee
Scott Machado

Former clients:

Rafer Alston
Keith Bogans
Ruben Patterson

If it's something that happened in the past your guess is as good as mine. I think it comes down to the Adidas contract. Dwight will get paid big dollars if he is traded to LA or BK when he renews.

 

The Fegan-Rockets feud does date back to Olajuwon and Dawson. Fegan was Olajuwon's agent. Fegan is the main one driving Dwight to get anywhere but here. He's going to have a very difficult time showing Dwight where it is in his best interest to turn down a birds rights contract to sign elsewhere.


One of our local reporters should interview Dawson covertly, get the whole story from him, and put it in print, without quoting or acknowledging him and expose Fegan.

 

I think he fills the spot very well. He plays both ends of the floor and he’s a load for any C - starting or backup. PG and C is a spot that needs to be filled correctly IMO even in a rebuild. You need a good PG to give the youngsters the ball when and where they need it. A good PG will make players better – see Steve Nash for an extreme example. I think we are ok at PG but we are missing a C.

You need a good C to cover up the mistakes that rookies are going to make. Again – this isn’t to get more Ws but for youth development. Let’s take Lamb for example. Let’s say he’s getting burned off the dribble or missing a cutter or who knows what but he’s getting beat. If you have a guy back there covering for you, you don’t feel so bad about getting beat. The whole team feels ok. But if you have Patterson, DMo, etc back there guarding the hoop and they aren’t doing such a great job, not only will Lamb suffer but the team suffers the “we suck” mentality.

And personally I don’t care about the development of Davis as much as I care about the development of our youth. And GMs don’t unload decent Cs cheaply – unless they are rebuilding. I think he will more than fill the gap we have for the price we should be paying at this point of our rebuild.

 

I hear Dwight is afraid of the tornadoes in Texas.

 

There could be several advantages to the Rockets to wait until the February trade deadline to do a deal with Orlando:

1. Orlando will have almost no leverage, so the price will be cheaper.
2. We have more time to evaluate our current players/rookies.
3. Dwight will have no time to try to force us to trade him. If we trade for him preseason, we could be faced with a drama situation until February with Dwight pushing us for a trade to Brooklyn or the Lakers. Once February rolls around, his dream of going to any major market is over. Then his only choices are Houston, Dallas or Atlanta, as a free agent.

 

Makes sense to me.

We have plenty of draft picks to offer; multiple first rounders and a few second rounders, correct? And an expiring contract in Kevin Martin.

Throwing in Morris and either White or Jones should be enough, at least looking at what Utah and New Orleans got for compensation.

Orlando has made it clear they want to rebuild, not reload like Denver did.

Forgive me if my memory is off...

Jazz receive: Devin Harris and Derrick Favors (2 young talented players), 2 first rounders and cash

Hornets receive: Eric Gordon (Young, potential all-star. Expiring?), Chris Kaman (Expiring contract, still talented), Aminu (Young player. Some potential), and unprotected 1st rounder.

Theoretical Trade
Rockets Receive: Dwight Howard (Star)
Magic Receive: Multiple draft picks, both first and second (Would we have more picks available to trade then Nets?), Kevin Martin (Expiring contract, still talented. Could be a 2nd or 3rd option next to a lottery pick), Marcus Morris OR Pattrick Patterson (Young player; lottery pick, still has potential), Toney Douglas (Young solid point guard), and either Royce White or Terrence Jones (TJ has more talent at this point in time, a true hybrid. May develop into a very good player; White more of a project)

Could we also make room for Jason Richardson? Would a swap of Livingston and J-Rich work, if we add some cash considerations? Magic would get an expiring. We'd be stuck with Fortson, unfortunately, unless we called up Machado.

What do y'all think?

Magic 12-13 Lineup:
Douglas/Reddick/Jones/Nicholson/Davis

That would certainly be in contention for top 5 pick, no? Perhaps my deal isn't quite feasible, but it matches up with what past teams have received.

 

Hes scared to Fail...... (weak heart)

 

No thank you.

 

p**psworld


This exercise isn’t about what the Rockets will do but what they legally can accomplish if so motivated.

The presumption is that for the Magic to move Dwight, they want a combination of picks, prospects and salary relief. The players Orlando is looking to “dump” include Hedo Turkoglu, Chris Duhon, Jason Richardson and Glen Davis.

Turkoglu is set to make $11.8 million and $12.0 million over the next two years but the second season is only $6 million guaranteed.

Duhon is at $3.5 million and $3.75 million with the second year approximately $1.5 million guaranteed.

Richardson and Davis both have three seasons at $18.6 million and $19.4 million in total, respectively. Richardson does have a player option on his final year.

Additionally, the rules have changed when matching salaries in trade for non-tax teams. When receiving up to $9.8 million in salary, the incoming team can take in up to 150 percent of the salary going out plus $100k.

From $9.8 million to $19.6 million, the padding on salary going out is a flat $5 million.

Once the numbers hit $19.6 million or greater, the tax-payer rate of 125 percent of outgoing salary (plus $100k) is used.

A single trade between the Rockets and Magic might not work at the 125-percent rate, but a larger deal can be broken down into smaller components to take care of the complex rules of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Also noteworthy, the Rockets are still a cap team so they are capable of packaging recently-acquired players together in outgoing deals.

Timing can be difficult as first-round picks recently signed cannot be deal for 30 days. Donatas Motiejunas can be dealt around August 4th. Terrence Jones on August 9th. Royce White just inked and won’t be available until August 25th. Jeremy Lamb is expected to sign as well (he may already have by publication) which would start the 30 day clock for him as well.

So what can the Magic and Rockets do directly, noting the contracts of Lin and Asik aren’t in the discussion?

Kevin Martin and Patrick Patterson combine to make $14,536,435. Howard, at $19,536,360 is slightly below the $19.6 barrier and fits within the $5,000 padding by just $75.

The combination of Donatas Motiejunas, Shaun Livingston, Diamon Simpson, Courtney Fortson and Josh Harrellson totals $7.1 million which, with the $5,000 padding, is enough to take on Turkoglu. Other than Motiejunas, each of the four players can be cut with non-guaranteed salary (although Livingston does have $1 million of his $3.5 million guaranteed).

Marcus Morris, Jon Brockman and Sean Williams combine to make $3.8 million which is enough to acquire Jason Richardson. Williams’ $916k is non-guaranteed.

Chandler Parson, Gary Forbes, JaJuan Johnson and Greg Smith (guaranteed $381k) work for Glen Davis.

Terrence Jones and Toney Douglas can be dealt for Chris Duhon.

The resulting combination, spread across five separate trades? Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Donatas Motiejunas, Shaun Livingston, Courtney Fortson, Josh Harrelson, Diamon Simpson, Marcus Morris, Jon Brockman, Sean Williams, Gary Forbes, JaJuan Johnson, Greg Smith, Chandler Parsons, Toney Douglas and Terrence Jones for Dwight Howard, Glen Davis, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Hedo Turkoglu.

It’s not pretty. It’s not realistic, but is it possible for the Rockets to send 16 players to Orlando to take on Howard and four unwanted players, at least mathematically? Yes.

The question isn’t, “Can the Rockets put together a package?” They can.

 

David Stern points at Dwight Howard's agent as leak source

[rquoter]NBA Commissioner David Stern called out Orlando center Dwight Howard's agent, Dan Fegan, as the primary unnamed source leaking details of a recent meeting between Howard and Magic executives.

Asked what he thought of the Howard situation, which threatens to engulf another season for the Magic, Stern chided Fegan.

"It's very unique, especially if it's driven by a quote source that happens to be Dwight's agent," Stern told USA TODAY Sports in a telephone interview. " 'A source in the meeting. Oh, OK, who might that be?"

Does he think it could be new Magic general manager Rob Hennigan?

"No, I don't, and I don't think it's (Magic CEO) Alex Martins either," Stern said.

Parties in negotiations often pass along information to news media in exchange for anonymity because they don't want their positions known publicly or because they are trying to get information out to either improve their positions or make a point without being held publicly responsible. The information leaked from Wednesday's meeting mostly centered on Howard still wanting out of Orlando.

Jab aside, Stern says he is comfortable with how Howard's tumultuous situation is playing out. Howard wants out of Orlando, and the Magic are unwilling to trade him unless a deal yields what Hennigan wants as the Magic begin to rebuild: salary cap relief, young talent and draft picks.

"To me, it is the soap opera our fans turn in for - the drama on the court and the drama off the court," Stern said. "When we cease to have a story popping up, we probably won't exist.

"I think what it is, is that that's the way we are. That's the way it has been in baseball and the NFL and hockey and basketball. And frankly, it engages our fans, it engages our reporters, it engages our bloggers. It makes people happy, mad, sad. It's just the life in sports."[/rquoter]

 

Um...is he suggesting we give up all our young talent to become the Houston Magic?

Or is he simply stating what we 'can' do, not what we 'will' do?

 

Very interesting. I'm more convinced now than ever, that we should trade for Dwight. Fagen is all about the $. No way Fagen let's his client walk away from an extra $30 mil in the offseason. But he also works for Dwight, and right now, he's trying to keep his LA options alive by scaring Houston off with all of the Dallas leaks, and pressuring Orlando to deal with LA. I still don't think you give up a Dmo or a Lamb if you think they are future allstars, but short of that, everyone else should be available.