Dwight Howard's plan to sign w/ Dallas next year makes trade from Orlando problematic

LOL how can you trade owners? Then why don't you just switch and become a Mavs fan?

Anyway nobody is disputing that Cuban is a good owner, but the fact is he still dismantled his own team. Its not just because of Dwight and Deron (what happened to Deron again?), its because the new CBA means you can't really use money to fix your problems anymore, and even if do you decide to go down that path anyway you'll be paying such crazy amounts of tax (just ask the Knicks).

Alexander has been shelling out money for this org for years, starting with all the $$$ thrown into moneyball research. Saying Luxury tax = owner's commitment isn't true at all, because there's actually no correlation between tax paying teams and champions.

 

Prediction: Bluff will be be called. Howard to HOU unless the 3 way trade with LAL lands HOU Bynum and all bad contracts to LAL.

 

mathematically it cannot happen. And la would be paying like 130 mil in taxes
Howard is just following the melo model. Tell the team your plans and wait. Should have done the LeBron aka shaq model. Just lead them in and bolt. Both painful, but what hurts more constant pressure, or a quick but shocking resolution?

 

At least Lebron and Shaq were man enough to leave when they were FAs and didn't drag it on longer than necessary. Its like when you're looking for work while employed and then resign to go to another firm in a couple of weeks. Sucks for the old team, but that's free agency for you. At least they did it professionally and with as little "awkward time" as possible.

Melo and Dwight are like the employees who resign without a new job offer and then start blatantly looking for a job while still employed in their company, coming late at work because they've been to multiple interviews and zoning out because they've already mentally checked out. Extremely pathetic IMHO.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again in this thread.

Dwight himself doesn't even know what the hell he wants. Orlando, they don't have a clue what they want either.

Whose to say Dwight doesn't get traded here, resigns at the end of the year, and demands a trade 1 year down the road? Or goes to Dallas and does the same thing?

The Media, they are just as confused as us it looks like.

I don't know what Dwight's end game is. I don't know what Orlando actually wants from him.

I've just never seen this much swooning over a player that has never won a ring, and IMO will never "lead" a team to a title either. The way Orlando is gushing over him, begging him to stay, Morey moving the entire team to get him, LA trying to get every team, including the LA Sparks to facilitate a trade to help them.....

For Lebron? Sure. For KD, excellent attitude, you got it. Kobe in his prime? Of course.

But...Dwight? I guess I'm just not enamored with him like everybody else. If healthy, I'd take a Bynum over him every time.

 

Not empty when it can easily happen at end of season

 

Complete disrespect to rockets organization and fan base...this guy won't stop until everyone hates him, way to go Howard good job destroying your image...but u want me to still but your shoes I bet huh?

 

The only ones who suffer with these rumors are the Magic. How are they supposed to get fair value when Dwight is leaking these rumors out by the day? I know Houston gets to offer less because of them.

In the end money talks. Dwight hasn't said a thing himself. Perhaps he himself fears Houston as a worst-case scenario. But hey life sometimes deals you those cards. In my work there's times where you don't get to choose where you go. But even the worst case scenario is better than losing tons of money, or quitting. I have faith that our management is undeterred by stuff like this. In the end it just shows how great his fear is of his departure to Houston becoming a reality.

And if this is truly how his agent chooses to run things, rather than up front like almost every other superstar (save Carmelo), then it speaks more poorly for him. What about those rumors that Dwight was ready to fire the guy? Those are just as substantiable as these in my opinion.

 

I don't get why people on the board always assume Morey is offering up the entire team to get him. LOL are you just a new rox fan? Since when did Morey overpay on any trade he's done? In fact, Morey gets a ton of flak for always low-balling everyone, from FAs (like Landry) all the way to other teams (NY). Now he's gonna turn around and offer up the entire team for a rental?

If that happens I would be hella surprised. I think what's happening is Morey is offering trash for a Dwight rental, and that's why no trade has happened yet. Hannigan is waiting on Houston to see if it cracks, because really what Cleveland can offer isn't much better. For me I'd stick with just the Toronto pick+other picks+salary dump. You don't need to offer anything else.

 

The Lebron "drama" if you can even call it that, was no where near the headache Dwightmare is. Like Icehouse said, Lebron left as a free agent, he didn't hold his team as a hostage on where to trade him, and if I'm not mistaken, Dwade and him took a pay cut to play together. Yea "The Decision" was stupid, but that was infinitely better than this nonsense.

 

morey needs to send dwight flowers .. just a month ago people were saying morey needs to be fired if he cant get howard/bynum (but mainly howard) ..now bc of his pansy attitude .. the whole city is going to thank morey for not getting howard or bynum (bc getting bynum would mean helping howard go to LA) ..

 

What the kcuf ever. Maybe,just maybe cuban and nelson is a more desireable combo than what the rockets have. When we had dream,rudy t,new les less,it was a great destination. I mean barkley took 2m to sign pippen. Superstar want to win,plain and simple.

 

I just realized how much of a handcuff Dwight Howard would be for Dallas.

Dallas would likely use the ETO on Marion, Non-guarantee option on Carter, rescind Beaubois QO.

So they'd have one player under contract Nowitski earning 22 million. Doing a S&T for Howard (probably for all their remaining picks) would push them upwards of 40 million. So they'd be looking at 12-15 mil to fill out the rest of their entire roster. I think Miami, LA, OKC are all still vastly better and would get first dibs on which veteran minimum contract players to sign.

Their rebuilding process with an aging Nowitski and a more injury riddled Howard would take a lot longer to build around.

 

Dwight Howard will not be a Houston Rocket after, at the latest, the 2013-14 deadline. How much more clear can he be on this point? HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY HERE. HE WILL BE UNHAPPY HERE. Morey needs to move on.

 

I think Lebron's team would have LOVED to trade him. But he led them on as if they were a realistic choice that he would resign there.

Dwight has just made this a lot more confusing because he wants to go to certain teams and then opts in.

If anything Dwight is being more respectful to his team by telling them "I'm not going to resign here." so they can prepare to get something back for him instead of him leading them on into thinking they could resign him only to watch him leave for nothing.

 

Um did I miss the part where Lebron said he would resign in Cleveland? The only report of that happening was Trevor Ariza saying LBJ told him he'd resign in Cleveland. That was the whole point of the "Decision", LBJ was saying make your best recruiting offer, then I'd decide and tell you on cable tv. The point though is he IS a free agent, nobody can hold him hostage and force him to go where he doesn't want to go. Dwight could have been in the same boat by now but he decided to opt in for one more year, and then spent the rest of the season having surgery and is now spending the summer creating all this drama and lowering his trade value for Orlando.

BTW LBJ didn't leave for nothing. He took a sign and trade netted Cleveland an exception and a pick. Plus, he already paid his dues by spending 7 years leading a crappy Cavaliers team to a best record, a finals appearance and multiple playoff appearances. Maybe if their FO wasn't so dumb he wouldn't have left, look what Cleveland's doing to Lebron 2.0, Irving fell into their lap and they're surrounding him with busts Tristan Thompson on his left and Waiters on his right.

 

is Dallas a bigger Market than Houston?

 

keep in mind - all we hear is from HOWARD's CAMP, not dwight howard.

those are not even close to the same things. agents have a stake in these negotiations as well. i wonder if the comments about howard going to dallas are just posturing... to increase the rockets offer to the magic.

lets be real... howard would be an idiot to go to dallas. we'd be closer to contention than dallas would be at that point.

sometimes i think this drama is about dwight howard seeing who wants him the most. because as drama-queen-esque as howard seems... is he really THAT STUPID? he's got a couple options...

1 - go to LA and win a ring, but be left with the aged lakers team for the next 4 to 5 years... (ya they can build around him too, but when kobe's gone, they cant replace him)

2 - come to houston and let morey build him a squad (already underway).

3 - walk come free agency (regardless of who trades for him) and see what he gets on the open market (less $$$).

end of the day - he cant have his cake and eat it too. his free agency, in essence, began this offseason and the bidding war is on. rockets are the best option money-wise, though he may win a ring easier on another team, but even then - no team can offer him $$$ and rings right away (mia).

what howard chooses will say alot about him as a player and as a person.

 

I believe Dallas is by a slight margin. Doesn't account for the Chinese Halo effect though....

I hate the Mavs with a passion. If Howard walked to go to Dallas and left Houston, I might just have to punch the first person I see when I leave my house.

Can anyone give reasonable arguments as to why Dallas would be a more attractive option than Houston in the short and long term at the start of the next season?


Money: Adv Hou
Market: Maybe slightly in favor of Dallas but that's really debatable
Potential Support: Mavs have 1-2 years more of Dirk vs. Hou room to sign another young max or allstar with a few talented rooks
Championship: Maybe Dallas for the next 1 or 2 years but not much after that

Goodness, Dallas is just now getting on the mediocrity treadmill and we're on our way off. Why would D12 prefer Dallas to Houston can anyone tell me?

Sorry if I sound pissed....i'm surrounded by Mavs fans all day.

 

Sadly, yes.

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets
Dallas #5
Houston #10


Even if you hone it down to sports, ESPN has only the following as worthy of ESPN-Local:
BOSTON
CHICAGO
DALLAS
LOS ANGELES
NEW YORK

We're a bigger city, but Dallas has a (significantly) higher profile nationally.