1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Round 2: West Matchup 1

Discussion in 'Fantasy Sports' started by fallenphoenix, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. fallenphoenix

    fallenphoenix Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    9,821
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    Voting is based on front court, back court, overall offence, inside offence, outside shooting, overall defence, post defence, perimeter defence, bench, chemistry...and then individual match-ups (starting line up only)
    If you score a point for each, that is 15 points total, there should be a winner decided.

    rednation
    pg: Isiah Thomas
    sg: Pete Maravich
    sf: John Havlicek
    pf: Charles Barkley
    C: Bill Russell

    Bench
    G: Dennis Johnson
    F: James Worthy
    C: Dave Cowens

    vs

    Fadeaway:
    PG: Gary Payton
    SG: Reggie Miller
    SF: Chris Mullin
    PF: Tim Duncan
    C: David Robinson

    Bench:
    Chris Paul
    Shawn Marion
    Shawn Kemp
     
    #1 fallenphoenix, Jul 26, 2012
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2012
  2. RedNation

    RedNation Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    19,741
    Likes Received:
    709
    Should be interesting based on our judging criteria .
     
  3. fallenphoenix

    fallenphoenix Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    9,821
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    i did ask if everyone was ok with it and nobody objected at the time.
     
  4. RedNation

    RedNation Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    19,741
    Likes Received:
    709
    It doesn't matter to me. I just said it will be interesting
     
  5. fallenphoenix

    fallenphoenix Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    9,821
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    front court: fadeaway
    back court: rednation
    overall offense:rednation
    inside offense:fadeaway
    outside shooting:rednation
    overall defense: fadeaway
    post defense: fadeaway
    perimeter defense:rednation
    bench:rednation
    chemistry: fadeaway

    rednation
    pg: Isiah Thomas
    sg: Pete Maravich
    sf: John Havlicek
    pf: Charles Barkley
    C: Bill Russell

    vs

    Fadeaway:
    PG: Gary Payton
    SG: Reggie Miller
    SF: Chris Mullin
    PF: Tim Duncan
    C: David Robinson

    rednation: 8
    fadeaway: 7
     
  6. fallenphoenix

    fallenphoenix Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    9,821
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    i've just been reading comments of people complaining about the judging in other threads
     
  7. RedNation

    RedNation Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    19,741
    Likes Received:
    709
    I personally liked last judging better with the explanations but I don't mind this system.
     
  8. Sigmund

    Sigmund Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2012
    Messages:
    665
    Likes Received:
    18
    Front Court: RedNation
    Back Court: Fadeaway
    Overall Offense: RedNation
    Inside Offense: Fadeaway
    Outside Shooting: tie
    Overall Defense: tie
    Post Defense: Fadeaway
    Perimeter Defense: Fadeaway
    Bench: RedNation
    Chemistry: tie

    Individual Matchups

    rednation
    pg: Isiah Thomas
    sg: Pete Maravich
    sf: John Havlicek
    pf: Charles Barkley
    C: Bill Russell

    vs

    Fadeaway:
    PG: Gary Payton
    SG: Reggie Miller
    SF: Chris Mullin
    PF: Tim Duncan
    C: David Robinson

    RedNation: 6
    Fadeaway: 6

    RedNation should put Hondo on SG and Worthy on SF. RedNation does have slighty better overall team and that's why he would win.
     
  9. JumpMan

    JumpMan Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Messages:
    8,549
    Likes Received:
    4,957
    [Front Court]

    RedNation. Duncan and Robinson are very strong, but when you add Havlicek and depth, Team RedNation takes it.

    [Back Court]

    fadeaway. Like that trio more than Team RedNation's.

    With Front and Back Court votes, Havlicek in the front court or back court switches the vote.

    [Overall Offense]

    RedNation. I think it'd be a little bit more fluid.

    [Inside Offense]

    fadeaway.

    [Outside Shooting]

    fadeaway.

    [Overall Defense]

    fadeaway. Two starters on Team RedNation are notriously bad defenders.

    [Post Defense]

    fadeaway. Russell can't match the defense of Duncan and Robinson.

    [Perimeter Defense]

    RedNation. Havlicek was epic and Thomas better than average.

    Again, a switch of Havlicek would switch the vote.

    [Bench]

    RedNation. Paul is great, but Cowens and Worthy were better than Kemp and Marion.

    [Chemistry]

    RedNation. Too tough, but when in doubt I'm going with the team whose best player plays to make his teammates better.

    [Point Guard]

    RedNation. Very close.

    [Shooting Guard]

    fadeaway.

    [Small Forward]

    RedNation.

    [Power Forward]

    fadeaway.



    RedNation.

    [WINNER]

    RedNation. (8-7)​
     
  10. BigMaloe

    BigMaloe Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2012
    Messages:
    15,235
    Likes Received:
    18,301
    rednation
    pg: Isiah Thomas
    sg: Pete Maravich
    sf: John Havlicek
    pf: Charles Barkley
    C: Bill Russell

    Bench
    G: Dennis Johnson
    F: James Worthy
    C: Dave Cowens

    vs

    Fadeaway:
    PG: Gary Payton
    SG: Reggie Miller
    SF: Chris Mullin
    PF: Tim Duncan
    C: David Robinson

    Bench:
    Chris Paul
    Shawn Marion
    Shawn Kemp

    Frontcourt- Who has the better FC
    RedNation - i judge the 3, both front and back court...This was a tough choice... but im going with redN, russel is a defensive beast and barkley is a great rebounder and defender also... hond supplys the offensive punch off the wing... duncan is greatest pf ever, with a nice pairing with drob is great but i dont like mullin in the starting lineup, much rather see marion starting... this was extremely tough but russel > drob , hondo >> mullin , duncan << barkley... one aligator mouth in favor of redN...

    Backcourt- Who has the better BC
    RedNation - again mullin kinda screws it over for fadeaway... payton and miller is a nice offense and defense combo... isiah and pete is more blanced players on both sides... but again hondo >> mullin... thus advantage...

    Bench- WHo has the better bench
    Fadeaway - all three of fade's bench players play both sides of the ball with more athleticism.. while redN has more of specific role players...

    Offense- Which team has the better overall team offense. Which teams offense would run smoother and be more effective.
    fadeaway - mullin can shoot, miller is lights out, duncan with drob are killin the post offensivily...redN has a nice bc pairing offensivly with of pete/isiah/hondo and while, yes barkley and russell can score, their strength is defense... edge to fadeaway's overall offensive balance...

    Defense- Which team plays better defense? This includes team defense as well as individual defense
    Tie - this is tough for me to decide... both have good interior defenders and both teams have good outside defenders, whether starting or off the bench... its even to me... or atleast too close for me to choose

    Chemistry- which team would have better chemistry and work together better. For example, a team full of scorers who like to keep the ball in their hands wouldn't work very well.
    Tie - no chemistry killers or problems forseen...

    fadeaway in 7... i know i picked RedNation in alot of the categories but thats because of mullin starting... i forsee marion getting more PT and feel like fade's team is overall better built and constructed...
     
  11. RedNation

    RedNation Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    19,741
    Likes Received:
    709
    so is that 2-1 or 3-1?

    BTW, thanks for the detailed response BigM
     
  12. BigMaloe

    BigMaloe Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2012
    Messages:
    15,235
    Likes Received:
    18,301
    no prob :grin:
     
  13. Horry33

    Horry33 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2009
    Messages:
    4,323
    Likes Received:
    326

    I dont mind this system either. In general I don't care what system we use as long as the judging criteria is stated before the draft and the judges stick too it.
     
  14. fallenphoenix

    fallenphoenix Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    9,821
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    2-1

    5char
     
  15. fallenphoenix

    fallenphoenix Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    9,821
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    Rednation 3-1
     
  16. IzakDavid13

    IzakDavid13 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2011
    Messages:
    9,958
    Likes Received:
    801
    front court: fadeaway
    back court: Rednation
    overall offense:fadeaway
    inside offense:fadeaway
    outside shooting:fadeaway
    overall defense: Rednation
    post defense: Rednation
    perimeter defense:fadeaway
    bench:rednation
    chemistry: fadeaway

    rednation
    pg: Isiah Thomas
    sg: Pete Maravich
    sf: John Havlicek...tie
    pf: Charles Barkley
    C: Bill Russell

    vs

    Fadeaway:
    PG: Gary Payton
    SG: Reggie Miller
    SF: Chris Mullin....tie
    PF: Tim Duncan
    C: David Robinson

    rednation:
    fadeaway: 9-7
     
  17. RedNation

    RedNation Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    19,741
    Likes Received:
    709
    Mullin and Havlicek a tie :eek:

    Izak, is that you :p

    3-2 RedN
     
  18. IzakDavid13

    IzakDavid13 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2011
    Messages:
    9,958
    Likes Received:
    801
    If I had to split hairs Hondo is the better player, but Mullin is the better shooter and scorer.

    Sorry Mate... :)

    I have 1 bar of Internet coverage at moment, will try and vote on all.
     
  19. LCAhmed

    LCAhmed Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    11,034
    Likes Received:
    1,632
    FC:Fadeaway
    BC: Red
    Offense: Fadeaway
    Inside: Fadeaway
    Outside: Fadeaway
    Defense: Fadeaway
    Post:Fadeaway
    Perimeter: Red
    Bench: Red
    Chemistry: Red

    4-6 Fadeaway

    Matchup

    rednation
    pg: Isiah Thomas
    sg: Pete Maravich
    sf: John Havlicek
    pf: Charles Barkley
    C: Bill Russell


    vs

    Fadeaway:
    PG: Gary Payton
    SG: Reggie Miller
    SF: Chris Mullin
    PF: Tim Duncan
    C: David Robinson

    3-2 Red

    Overall 7-8

    winner Fadeaway
     
  20. RedNation

    RedNation Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    19,741
    Likes Received:
    709
    3-3

    Next one wins. I vote rednation. Does that count?
     

Share This Page