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Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. OremLK

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    It was only on his list because it was on D-Will's list. He was hoping to join D-Will there. That is out of the question now.

    He won't go there if it means leaving that much $$$ on the table, especially when their basketball situation is going way downhill.
     
  2. Rudy

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    But Dwight playing with rookies and Jeremy Lin in 1-2 years will! ;)
     
  3. Rudy

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    Hey again, I'm just trying to play the devil's advocate :)
     
  4. OremLK

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    The important difference is the Rockets will have flexibility to make trades and/or sign free agents, which Dallas will absolutely not. Plus, you know, the $30 million dollars.
     
  5. The_Yoyo

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    kaman, collison and mayo would be all free agents - brand wouldnt but VC a lot older as well they would have to do a deal with Dwight first and then hope they can resign those 3 guys - they signed all these guys (well kaman and mayo) so that they would have some cap room in 2013 (well in mayo's case I believe its a player option - which if he plays well he'll exercise to get more money and if he sucks/injured then he'll keep to be overpaid which then makes the team worse anyway)

    dwight may want to go to dallas because they recently won but he'll be somewhat of a similar situation as he was in Orlando with Dallas imo if he walks there but if he leaves over 30 million on the table to do so more power to him
     
  6. The Cat

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    Sounds like from that quote that Ford is assuming based on the December 2011 inclusion of Dallas. In reality, Dwight included Dallas on that "list" because they were the defending champions (high profile) and had the potential to sign another star in Deron beside him this summer. In other words, a rival big three.

    Since then, the Dallas championship team has been completely dismantled, Deron rejected the Mavs and signed long-term in Brooklyn, and the team consists of an aging Dirk and spare parts. There was a reason Dallas was on Dwight's initial list, but I'm not buying for one second that it applies today.
     
  7. Rudy

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    Players like LeBron have left considerable money to take a paycut just to play in a city they WANT to play in.

    Cleveland gambled on it and lost...

    Can we gut our whole future for this kind of gamble?
     
  8. Rudy

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    Another reporter, Adrian Woj (Yahoo), just reiterated Dwight's desire to still play in Dallas just a few hours ago.

    So there are still a lot of truths to this.
     
  9. OremLK

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    This has already been debunked. The amount of money LeBron left on the table is very small compared to what Dwight would be leaving. That was the old CBA, where you could be sign & traded and still make the full max.
     
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

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    WRONG. You know Cleveland signed and traded Lebron right? With the new CBA you can't SnT a players bird rights (5th year) to another team.

    No Max level free agent has walked away to another team for a 4 year deal. Morey won't trade Howard either. He'll force him to stay or walk away without his bird rights.
     
  11. OremLK

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    It's being floated out there as a smokescreen by Dwight's agent to try to keep Houston from trading for him.

    AKA Dwight is clearly bluffing.

    If he was serious about it, he'd say it himself in an interview, out of his own mouth. You know what it is only being reported by "sources close to Dwight"? Because he wants deniability so that when he re-signs in Houston he can say, "I never actually said I would rather play in Dallas. Those reports were false."
     
  12. The Cat

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    The reason for that is obvious - to scare Houston into either backing off entirely or being the third-team facilitator of Howard-to-LA and taking Bynum. If Dwight were legitimately interested in Dallas, why wouldn't he be open to a trade there this summer? Why is it only Brooklyn and LA, if he's so willing to sign long-term in Dallas (and for less money)? Fact is, Howard's camp needed to leverage a team with cap room against Houston to have any chance at a successful bluff, and the Mavs fit the bill.

    The things we know about Dwight are that he desperately wants maximum salary, endorsements and ring-chasing. Dallas offers none.
     
  13. jtr

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    Believe me this is going to be much much worse. Shopping with your wife is just purgatory. This is hell. ;)
     
  14. moreyball

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    I'd nominate Sigmung to be the rockets GM
     
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    Whether it's to try and scare us off or not is besides the point I think. It is helping our leverage TREMENDOUSLY. We're the only real suitors for Dwight. We go into negotiations under the impression that he is all but gone if he is traded to us.

    That gives us the ability to pretty much offer Martin/2pat/Morrison and picks for Dwight and a bad contract, after all he has said over and over he is leaving us no matter what. If they tell us to **** off, we say fine. They can trade him for an overpaid Lopez and 3 picks in the 25-30 range. Though I think our lottery pick and young talent look a little better than that.
     
  16. Camarograna2

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    sounds reasonable
     
  17. OlajuwonFan81

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    Same ole arguments that were raised 10 pages ago are still being discussed. I'm not sure why some of you keep insisting that Dwight is going to bolt. If you look at the situation from an objective lens, and NOT his agents BS.....you would conclude that more than likely he would reup with us. Dallas is only being used as a leverage ploy yet some of you will continue to be scared and yap about the same thing 10 pages from now.
     
  18. ApolloRLB

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    That wouldn't be their team. They'd have to renounce most of their FAs just to have the cap room to sign Dwight.
     
  19. Rudy

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    So 1 of the biggest reason Dwight would re-up here if he was indeed traded to Houston was because he would leave $25-$30 million on the table and a 5th year right?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--m...-target-in-potential-dwight-howard-trade.html

    Howard’s next Adidas deal will be worth significantly more money – perhaps even double – if he’s playing in the major market like Los Angeles, sources told Yahoo!

    http://www.netsdaily.com/2012/3/20/2887957/nets-have-shop-deal-with-adidas

    It was rumored that Adidas was ready to give Howard a $400 million deal if he came to Brooklyn.

    Dwight isn't going to be losing $25-$30 million. He could be losing a lot less, or hey, he could actually be even making a bit more. But that "$25-$30 million he's leaving behind" is not set in stone.

    No one can really tell how much more of a difference Dwight will be getting with his increased licensing deal to the amount of money he'd losing without a 5th year.
     
  20. The Cat

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    Yes, he is - because no major market team has cap room next summer. If Dwight walks out on Houston, it won't be for Los Angeles or Brooklyn. It'll be Dallas or Atlanta, which are no more lucrative for Adidas than Houston.
     

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