Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

Hmmm wonder why about 90% of lakers fans wan't to get rid of him for Howard ?

 

1) Best owner in the NBA currently. Willing to spend what it takes to win Chips.
2) One of, if not THE best GM's in the league that knows how to create Championship contending teams.
3) One of the biggest markets in the NBA (NY&LA) which brings the best endorsement deals. ($$$)

The only thing that will hold the Lakers back in free agent signings is the CBA. Still wouldn't worry me as there will be free agents willing to leave the extra year on the table (Dwight, as an example).

 

Bynum isn't a high character guy, who can bring you additional star players. That is why we are willing to gamble on him. To make an offer for Bynum with a Dwight price I would rather to take my time watch Lamb, Dmo and the guy who will be drawed with the raptors pick.

 

Blind hate ?? his knee problems are well documented WTF are you talking about ?

 

Because Howard will improve our team? It's really that simple. You do realize that Laker fans are 100% ready and content with moving forward with Bynum if we can't get Dwight. With Bynum the Lakers are still one of the favorites to win it all. Swapping Bynum for Howard is just an opportunity for the Lakers to improve their team, plain and simple.

 

LOL Kobe was basically drafted by the lakers .. he didn't choose them

 

Fixed

 

Christ...so let me see if I can wrap my head around this. I've got a migraine and it's late.

So...the Magic and Howard met and, as many predicted, it accomplished nothing other than giving the Magic an excuse to say 'we tried, guys. we really did!'

Howard didn't help them at all with leverage or anything of the sort. In fact, he felt betrayed. Why didn't you trade me to Brooklyn, he says? Brook Lopez, a few scrubs and garbage picks is good enough for you guys, right?

Idiot.

So, now he's got a raging hard-on for the glitz and glam of Los Angeles. Understandable, since all the stars want to go to Hollywood. We can't prevent this; we can't change our wonderful city to appease these guys. Lakers have stars, hype, etc. But, let's be realistic here. The Magic cannot gift Howard to the Lakers without a third team. Bynum would obviously be gone. Houston seems unwilling, at least, to give L.A. a dynasty for the several years.

Cleveland is chicken****; unwilling to give up the guys they reached for in the first place. Our Rockets, led by Morey, whom we trust, are batting down the hatches and giving the Magic what is most likely a solid offer, better than BK's I'm sure and telling them to take it or deal with the Dwightmare for another year.

Now, it's being leaked Howard is repulsed by the idea of playing in the red and white, and would walk at the end of the season? To Dallas? To leave 30 million on the table and play with 37 year old Dirk?

Am I missing the thought process here? I must be. Even if we trade for somebody like Josh Smith or Iggy, that manchild would still leave us and the money to go to the ******* Mavericks, who are clearly on life support as far as contending goes?

Houston is a rich franchise, with championship pedigree, history, a line of all-star centers, an owner willing to spend more then, say, the Bulls owner, and a GM who is savvy enough to make the best moves

What the hell is Howard's problem? He's becoming far more trouble then he may be worth. Especially with a brokeback.

I'm going to sleep. It really is a nightmare.

 

Exactly.

No one there is going to be angry if they keep Bynum. This is just a open opportunity to them...and if Dwight goes to Dallas like he's threatening to do trust me, another superstar will be tripping over himself trying to go to L.A or New York again.

 

F' that. Insane my ass. If the Rockets cant get Dwight they better not be involved w/ helping Dwight go to L.A. It should be Dwight or nothing. If L.A. wants Dwight let them make that deal on their own, see how that goes for them.

I'll be extremely pissed if Morey is that stupid. Faker's have to deal w/ Bynum leaving same as Orl. has to w/ Dwight. If the Rockets bail out the fakers on account of being desperate I'm done w/ them.

 

ahhh laker fan ... now i see .. Go away

 

Limbo reigns after latest meeting between Howard and Magic

July 26, 2012 Tony Mejia No comments


Limbo has a hellish connotation, so maybe it’s appropriate that the Dwightmare has graduated to it’s current state.

Dwight Howard wants out, has wanted out and will never want back in. Nevermind that he opted in. That only matters in the most important way possible. He’s got no control, so what he wants doesn’t matter.

What he doesn’t want matters a ton.

At this point, an Orlando Magic organization that isn’t commenting on Wednesday’s meeting in L.A. walked away even more frustrated than the six-time All-Star center who can’t wrap his mind around why he hasn’t been traded yet. Maybe, had he been more open-minded, he could’ve strengthened the Magic’s stance in negotiations with the Houston and Los Angeles, the latter being the one place outside of Brooklyn that he’d like to call home the next few years.

One thing I can understand is that Howard doesn’t want to speak out of each side of his mouth anymore. Much of Orlando’s fan base has turned on him, so the need for him to appease no longer exists. He wants no part of relenting even an inch on his desire to be elsewhere, which really hurts Orlando’s ability to deal him for a return the franchise deems fair. I can respect he doesn’t want to tug at heart strings or play games, because he wore that rollercoaster out this past season.

Clearly, Orlando has lost the leverage game, even though it will continue to threaten to hold him until the trade deadline. At the same time, new GM Rob Hennigan has learned from some of the best, so he won’t be bullied and has to trust his gut with time on his side. CEO Alex Martins has expressed the desire not to have another year like the one the Magic just went through, but like Howard, didn’t help his team’s cause by having said that.

Houston went ahead and signed 2012 first-round picks Royce White and Terrence Jones, starting a 30-day clock before they can be moved in any deal. No. 12 pick Jeremy Lamb’s deal is imminent. 2011 pick Donatas Motiejunas is available on Aug. 5. At this point, the Rockets are settling in for lengthy negotiations if they opt to try and rent Howard or L.A.’s Andrew Bynum with the intent to keep one of them long-term.

Meanwhile, Howard, under contract with Orlando but still trying to get his way, is sabotaging a potential move to Houston. Despite the fact that the Rockets can get him and move him down the road in a worst-case scenario, he wants no part of them playing faciliator, which is really misguided.

The Rockets have the best package of assets that the Magic feel comfortable moving forward with, but since Howard has made it known he could always bolt to Dallas if Houston attempts to use his Bird Rights as a way to keep him, there’s little incentive for the Rockets to give Orlando anything close to what it wants.

Los Angeles can’t get Howard on its own because an Andrew Bynum package potentially puts the Magic in the same position they were in this afternoon. Orlando doesn’t want to sell its vision to any 7-footer that’s not under contract, but also wants no part of Brook Lopez or Kris Humphries, which means the Nets are out, even if Jan. 15 was Aug. 15 or March 15. Orlando and Brooklyn traded medical reports on their centers and talked in circles, but those talks yielded nothing that’s expected to change in the future.

As a result, the Lakers and Magic both need the Rockets, with Howard doing any potential three-way no favors at the moment. At least Bynum has said he’s amenable to calling Houston home.

Meanwhile, the Magic lose a lot if Howard comes to training camp. For starters, it would be a distraction and a horrible influence on those that want to be there, since the environment that Hennigan and coach-to-be Jacque Vaughn want to instill is ingrained in teamwork and no one being greater than the whole. Doesn’t exactly fit with Howard moping about being held hostage by the opt-in he signed.

They can pay him to stay away, but then everyone loses, basketball included. Howard does have a joy for the game, never being one to sit out unless he absolutely has to.

If he returns and plays for the Magic, they won’t be the travesty of a team necessary to compete for a top-five pick in a 2013 draft that has multiple gems. From that standpoint, Orlando can’t risk not getting a shot at Nerlens Noel or Shabazz Muhammad because they opt to make a guy unlikely to be around come March go through the motions for a couple of months.

Orlando won’t lose him for nothing, so they’re going to trade him. That’s certain. Howard won’t re-sign. Houston is taking a harder stance, because it can and should. The Lakers are playing the waiting game, because there’s no other option for them. Bynum is chilling. Has been. Will continue to. Chill, that is.

Welcome to limbo. As expected, it’s hellish and ugly.

http://www.probasketballnews.com/news/1101/

 

I was talking to Debriz. He's a Laker fan.

That was over a decade ago. The league has changed a lot. To say "oh stars will go to the Lakers no matter what" isn't a strong argument in my mind. As soon as Kobe, Pau, and Nash retire, I really don't think it'll be all that attractive (unless they get Dwight of course). Your reasoning for Mitch going after Dwight is the exact same reason we should.

 

So you'll be done with the rockets if we get the second best center in the league? K bye

 

...I could see this changing in the not too distant future. The team is in the middle of transitioning into the hands of one of Buss' younger sons. Jeanie Buss & Mitch Kuptchek are big reasons behind the Lakers success of recent years and frankly both of them are very sharp....but I think it's reasonable to speculate neither will have any involvement with the team at all 3-5 years from now. The eldest Buss seems determined to get his boneheaded younger son running the organization despite the success of the previous regime. It remains to be seen if he is as bright as Jeanie or Jerry, but from what I can gather it's an awkward climate there right now.

 

Signed

Laker fan

 

Favorites to win it all? lol
They won't even get past the thunder. They have exactly a 0% chance of beating the heat

 

^This

 

Well you've asked. I've sure never seen a player turn down going to the Lakers (unless he was a celtic heh)

Well they've had Kobe all that time. They've never needed another star.

At the same time though the Lakers are in a major market, the Knicks didn't need anything to attract Amare and Carmelo there...despite having a history of being really bad recently. Pretty sure eveyrone has spent the last few offseasons complaining about players wanting to only play in NYC L.A or other glamor cities so it is different to say the least to hear that isn't the case any more.

 

The only way I can consider helping the Lakers is Lakers giving up both Pau and Bynum. So that we can either withdraw the rook or withdraw the Raptor 1st round in a result that we still land Bynum.