can't stand it when dudes stand next to me in an empty bathroom at a urinal when there are like 10 open toilets next to me. Clearly soliciting something and not cool.
I see that it can SOMETIMES not be a problem, but there is a risk to it with young children. The problem really lies in when things don't go as expected.
It's not about the right to bring children into a movie theater ... it's about not being a ****ing *******.
We are such a self interested people. We only care about ourselves and then expect others to care about us and get pissed when they don't I DON'T CARE IF YOU GOT KIDS!! . . *I* WANT A QUIET MOVIE!! I DON'T CARE IF YOU WANT QUIET . . . . *I* WANT TO SEE A MOVIE AND HAVE TO TAKE THE KIDS *I* *I* *I* *I* *I* *ME* **SCREW YOU** Rocket River No winners here
Yup. It's amusing when people throw around the world selfish while saying other people should adjust their behavior for their benefit. Inconsiderate? Sure. Selfish? That's a bit hypocritical.
My "action" has been to ban babies and small children from my (live) theatre as do most live theatres. If only cinemas would do the same.
Alamo Drafthouse doesn't allow kids. At least they don't to some of their shows...not sure if it's all.
I's not selfish. Being quiet benefits the whole. Being loud with children benefits no one. Not even the parents who acted in THEIR interest, and not the interest in the common good of others at the movie. It's not selfish to ask parents to keep the kiddos in bed. It's for the betterment of others.
Can someone tell me the non-Drafthouse theatres you go to that are completely quiet 100% of the time when there's not a baby or young child in the audience? Cause I haven't been to one in years.
Excellent point.... still, at those places it's already loud enough with wait service interupting the movie and loud drunk people acting fools. Seriously though, they don't need any more sound than there is. A baby has a way of annoying people to their very core. It's just how we're programmed. People HATE to hear babies crying. It's evolution... that way humans are hard-wired to try and silence the baby and care for it. That sort of core distraction is not needed during a movie that a mass of people paid good money to enjoy. So yeah while you make a good point, I think it's a bit more complex than that.
Absolute silence is not the standard. What the vast majority of paying moviegoers want is an area relatively free from things that distract from the movie. Most kids are fidgety and noisy. Some may not be, but most of them are. Also, most parents seem incapable of controlling this sort of disruptive behavior in public. I've asked people in the same row as me to stop checking their text messages because the light from the screen kept disrupting my attention. People want to get immersed in a movie ... that's why most go to the theater. All of this really seems strikingly self-evident to me, and I suspect that parents are more concerned with asserting their "right" to drag their screaming and snotty kids into public than with any real thought to how considerate of others it is to do so. ...and most places, no one's going to give a damn one way or the other, but ....seriously? People seriously think it's appropriate to drag a screaming infant into a late night showing of a movie for adults? Really? I'm not disputing the right to do it. I'm saying that everyone who thinks you're a total ****ing ******* for doing so is right.
What on earth are you talking about? The lunatic in the theater wanted to murder people. The people he was murdering wanted him to stop murdering them for their own personal benefit. Were they being selfish? Once again, there are social and societal mores that exist amongst normal people. It isn't "being selfish" to demand that those around you adhere to them, nor are you being a hypocrite by calling them selfish.
You've created that social norm, though. As has been pointed out, there are theaters like the Drafthouse that specifically forbid children / cell phones / etc. The fact is Cinemark is OK with it - if not, they could similarly ban kids at whatever showings they wanted to. You're making the choice to attend a theater that is OK with children / babies there. But you're then imposing your own expectations - conveniently, entirely by expecting other people to change their behavior but you having to do nothing. The simpler solution is, if the Cinemark experience isn't acceptable, is for you to frequent the theaters that don't allow that type of thing. Then everyone is happy. That's not to say those parents aren't being inconsiderate having kids there and not taking them out of the theater if they are loud, etc. But to call them selfish for living their life and not becoming hermits? I think that's ridiculous.
I never said I thought it was OK. I think JV's point is that there's a very good chance that the same people who are complaining about a baby are the ones who yell at the screen, clap during the movie or check their texts. Any prolonged sound that's not expected by the venue is very annoying to me. Absolute silence is the goal, btw. It's reinforced by the theatre before every show.
