At times it felt like you were watching a marvel movie, i hate all the gidgets-gadgets. Weakest of the three but cool ending.
Spoiler Bruce is alive and well thats why they said the autopilot was fixed. Also earlier in the movie Alfred said he had always wanted to see Bruce with a wife and kids in Europe and they'd nod at each other. Which is exactly what happened at the end and Bruce's love interest Selina Kyle is there...if Alfred was dreaming or being delusional or whatever there wouldn't be Selina Kyle in that scene, he doesn't know they're linked romantically at any point in the movie until then [/spoiler\
Just saw it a second time in IMAX and was blown away again. I took all whats been said here and connected points along with weak points in the movie, yet still had a blast. Thats just how good this experience was. Really Nolan didn't want to waste anytime trying to explain how every nook was tied up. Wayne has his own ways to getting what he needs. As much as the city and heroics added to the movie, the most thing that's attracted me is the back story even tracing back to BB. Its so rich and gripping. Loved the whole jail sequence and makes this an unforgettable movie. Alfred's parts comes right in second, as this is Bruce's story.
now this is what I'm talking about Spoiler I definitely agree with you about the bomb decay. The plot relies on precise seconds and minutes of countdown to detonation. The timer wouldn't know exactly when the bomb would go off because it's not a controlled detonation. It's like if you have cancer and the doctor says "you have 5 months to live" there's no way to predict the exact biomolecular changes down to the minute. I just looked over that though because the bomb is just a plot device. Really in the context of the movie those details don't matter. Any more than asking when Batman fires his batpod why does it precisely release the ramp on the auto transport instead of blowing apart the thing as in real life? How can Selina ride the Batpod so well etc? Those aren't literal things but just things that happen in the movie... Selina can ride the Batpod because she's Catwoman, Batman can fire a rocket that precisely unlatches a ramp because he's Batman. Fox's reactor has a precise countdown mechanism because he's Fox etc etc. Almost as a result of the expectations we have on filmmakers and what we as an audience can relate to, most of these movies are going to have some macguffin: some superdangerous doomsday device, whether it's a nuclear bomb, weaponized magic fusion device or w/e. This **** just happens in a movie. The Avengers had Stark do the exact same thing in a much more unimaginative way with absolutely no suspense or danger. The only issue I had with autopilot, which I wonder why people who want to nitpick aren't asking is... autopilot is fine but I don't think the Batpod would be flyable after an ejection of the cockpit. I mean the aerodynamics of the wing would be changed with part of the front blasted out. Isn't that right? Maybe if someone here is a pilot or in the Air Force can answer that one. The entire thing is a wing and if part of a wing is blasted away it doesn't seem flyable by standard autopilot? Maybe the Bat has a back door he could bail out of. Or maybe Batman stopped the Batpod for a second while he opened the canopy and had it programmed to for different contingencies continue (it's not unthinkable that like the Batmobile in movie 2... loiter, intimidate etc... the "autopilot" in the Bat wouldn't just be to fly but maybe even perform basic independent tasks on its own). The fact that Bruce goes out of his way to lie to Gordon about "no autopilot" seems to hint that like Batman of the comics he had planned for every contingency... maybe even bailing out of the Batpod midflight and having it dispose of dangerous materials to save others. I recall 4 instances that they talk about the autopilot 4 in the movie, and there are at least 2 instances that Nolan says something about Bruce being the one to fix the autopilot so I didn't have problems with the autopilot itself Man I agree with you about Anne Hathaway when I heard she was cast, I thought I'd hate the casting worse than wooden Gyllenhaal. Even seeing the photos of her costume looked stupid. But she did an awesome job. Nolan even put those valley girl expressions and eye rolls to good use expressing a vulnerable young girl type of feel to an otherwise hardened character
Spoiler I don't think he was dreaming because Bruce was in fact alive. I mean okay. Other than Alfred actually SEEING Bruce all the other stuff could be considered circumstantial. The Bat signal, Bruce could have contracted north koreans or whoever built the batcave beforehand to fix in the case that he ever died The missing pearls, instead of being the one thing that Bruce would never leave behind (his mother died for those pearls) it could simply have been stolen from an uncrackable vault The autopilot could have been fixed as Fox discovers but it's possible that Bruce never used it And he could have left that bag with the details to the Batcave with the lawyer after he returned to Gotham before he went and found Selina and Fox. But even in that case why would Alfred hallucinate Bruce with Selina. Knowing Nolan as a filmmaker he wouldn't make that mistake. Or would he put her in there without a purpose. It's a hint that yes, this really is real.
Spoiler Alfred dreaming? I thought u guys were being sarcastic. Doesn't commissioner Gordon also think Batman's alive at the end when he sees the light fixed?
I pretty much agree all around (except for Alfred a little bit, but maybe my 2nd watch will give me better insight into him.) I sympathize with some who are complaining about editing and pace, but either we the viewers accept it or not: this is a hugely ambitious machination with many moving parts that I'm confident had to be compressed to under 3 hours (to release and make a ton of money.) I accept those terms and enjoyed the ride, but I understand completely that some will say it's not smooth enough for them. In one sense, it's a marvel of editing, if you think about every thing that happens, and every bit of information and every bit of character development. In that sense, my buddy and I were glad we didn't have beer.
Spoiler Alfred did know. He was basically encouraging him to get with her, because he could see how she interested him. At the time he dismissed it because he was still in love with dead Rachel. Not that he is dreaming.
saw the movie last night at the Edwards IMAX - freaking awesome. Had to suspend reality but overall 4.5 out of 5 stars easily. I thought the soundtrack was done well maybe it was just the IMAX experience though.
I've read a couple of mentions about the sound track the last couple of pages. I saw it last Friday night and didn't understand 40% or so of what was said. The vocal track was just too weak. Maybe it was where I was sitting but I couldn't understand or hear them talk over the action. Even in one scene, where Bruce and Alfred are just talking by a staircase in the manor, there's no music or action but it's like they both spoke so softly I couldn't understand. Bane is only character I understood the whole way through, but his voice was so amplified. Regardless though, I really liked it. Probably will see it again and hope the sound is better.
how the hell does Bane eat?? seems like it would be a pain in the ass.. and it's mentioned in the movie how he would be in extreme pain if his mask is removed
Yeah I had problems hearing some of the conversations too. Mainly Bane at times and then the two prisoners talking to Bruce. The score though, I loved. I thought it complimented the tone of the movie perfectly.
I think he grates cheese into that middle part. Probably what he was doing early in the movie when he was sitting down and his back was turned. He was either checking Clutchfans or grating cheese into his face.
No I think they were being serious. That's a gripe that's been going around the Internet about the movie Spoiler Gordon thinks he's alive but Batman lets all his allies know he's alive. Gordon with the Bat Light Fox with the autopilot Blake with the bag (although I'm not actually sure what Blake knows... after all Bruce could have left the bag after he got to Gotham before he found Selina and confronted Bane. he probably left instructions on the Batcomputer though, probably along with secret bank accounts/training & crime fighting lessons/contacts etc) also I think Batman leaves the Bat light not just so Gordon knows he's alive but so he'll USE it when he needs help and Blake will show up. however note that Nolan omitted one reveal. maybe the most fun one and probably the first one what Batman actually did when he found and revealed to Selina that he was alive.
