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Bulls tell Morey today they will NOT match Asik

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. Fullcourt

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    Fact: We were willing to trade for Carmelo without assurance of him re-signing (When NYK, his team of preference, had cap room to sign him in the summer, unlike Dwight) AND we were willing to trade for Deron without insurance of him re-signing.

    The notion that we will for some reason draw the line at Dwight, a much more impactful player than either of them, yet still get paid the same, is comedic. What's even funnier is that this guy seems to think we'd go so far as to improve a Western conference foe, thus creating another super team when Les himself makes statements about wanting stars to attract more stars is absolutely HILARIOUS. Dwight will not go to LA with our help. Absolutely no way.
     
  2. Akim523

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    Oh NO!
     
  3. TheBornLoser

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    I take everything with a necessary grain of salt. But I don't jump with two feet and razor sharp stilettos on a guy who has been verified by Dave2000, and who has given some good info in the past or recently in this thread. Every credible info-giver (whether reporters, media or otherwise) in the industry has made mistakes or has been fed (and given out) wrong information before. People even deny genuine connections they may have, if it is in their interests to do so.

    Cyberx has no need to justify himself to any of us. Nor do you have any need to believe him if you do not want to (and vice versa). At the end of the day, his credibility will go up or down once the Dwight Howard trades are confirmed, and at the end of the season.
     
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  4. Carl Herrera

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    In case the :p didn't make it clear, I made a joke.
     
  5. glimmertwins

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    Already rep'd you but will rep again when able. That's a good one. :grin:
     
  6. HMMMHMM

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    That's a sheep anyway, you noobs. Fauna 101. :)
     
  7. Fullcourt

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    The guy routinely posts information that has already been spread around in various tweets and reports. Now all of a sudden he posts something that was already refuted by Byron Scott himself, posters point it out and he goes quiet all of a sudden. The natural thing to do would be to confront him about it. No problem with that at all.
     
  8. jamisonrocket

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    Right ! I was skeptic at first now with him saying Scott and Bynum are close ( which B Scott has already said is wrong publicly) and then talks about laker almost certainly getting Howard . Seems like another person reading twitter rumors. I see no actuall substance to these claims other then , take my word on it and trust me
     
  9. Debriz

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    What you fail to realize is that Houston does not have ALL the leverage. No one doubts Morey is crazy enough to go all in on Dwight. The biggest factor in all of this is Orlando. Again, look at the leagues history. Superstars like Dwight simply do not get dumped into places they do not want be. Dwight has been Loyal to Orlando, it will now be some time for them to show some loyalty back. (this happens almost every time). They will do their best to trade Dwight to a place he is okay with being at. (at this point in time, only seems to be LA). If they dump him in Houston, it will show all the other players/agents/people involved that Orlando doesn't show good faith in their relationships with their superstars.

    As for "Dwight will not go to LA with our help. Absolutely no way." That is just absurd. Like i said before, Orlando, trying to act in good faith, can very easily tell Houston they want to make it a 3 way trade to get more assets (ebanks/mcroberts,ect) AND unload more bad contracts (LA can take at least 1 with ebanks/mcroberts/ect going out). If Houston decides they don't want any part of that, Orlando can tell them they will just go execute a deal with Cleveland then.

    People are vastly underestimating the kind of power Dwight still has in this situation.
     
  10. djohn2o12

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    Lol that's not how a business works. Plus Dwight has burned PLENTY of bridges in Orlando. If they were going to be loyal, he would have been traded to Brooklyn for garbage heaps.
     
  11. TheBornLoser

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    Sure, it is not a problem at all for you to confront him.

    It is also not a problem for him to ignore / not respond to you and the others calling him out.

    I would like him to continue giving us whatever info he has from his angle. I just hope that posters like you who want an immediate, certain and absolute answer to everything do not drive him away. It would be a shame... this forum hoping for insider info, but superficiality and short-mindedness driving away what could have possibly been a genuine source.

    At the end of the day, Cyberx has been vouched for by a CREDIBLE member of this forum, who said that he is right EIGHTY PERCENT of the time. That is more than anyone vouching for your opinion.
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    If ORL was interested in showing "loyalty" to Howard, he would be in Brooklyn already.
     
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    They're desperate for information.
     
  14. OremLK

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    It's Dwight's own fault for opting in. He CHOSE to give Orlando the leverage to trade him for the best return. He only has himself to blame and everybody knows it. That's why his rep has taken such a bad hit. If the Dwightmare continues on through this upcoming season and into the next offseason, his rep is going to be completely, 100% trashed. Everybody is sick of hearing about how he can't make up his mind. He knows it too. I think he settles down, quietly signs his extension here in Houston, and goes about his business... enjoying some nice Chinese endorsement revenues in the meantime.
     
  15. Debriz

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    Brooklyn's offer was just terrible in comparison to what else they could get. Was it not painfully obvious they were working extremely hard to get a deal done with them? Getting up to 4 teams involved? It was a done deal but Cleveland/Humphries were the issue. They also never told Brooklyn that they're deal was never going to work, they tried to make it work but Brooklyn had to move because Lopez was about to get a restricted offer.
     
  16. OremLK

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    You're assuming those rumors were of legitimate interest in making a deal by ORL, and not Dwight's agent desperately flailing to find a deal which would get his client to Brooklyn. I think the latter is much more likely.
     
  17. Fullcourt

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    His story didn't make sense. We want an explanation. I'm not going to start ignoring him just because I don't believe him.
     
  18. djohn2o12

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    lol No. Brooklyn deal was leverage for Houston to up their offer. Orlando had no real interest. Like you said, Brooklyn's offer was terrible.
     
  19. Fullcourt

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    This is ridiculous. With this logic, Dwight would be in Brooklyn. Orlando is out to get the best deal for themselves, not to accommodate Dwight.
     
  20. Debriz

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    And look at the leagues history involving superstars being traded. I'm not saying the Magic couldn't just pull the gun and dump Dwight in Houston, I'm just saying it seems more unlikely than people seem to think. This whole "Our offer is the best, its a lock" just seems silly to me.
     

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