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Gun Control in America.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by s land balla, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I'll take my chances with crazy and his bolt action rifle as opposed to his magazine with 30 rounds.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    Look up the crazy who killed 16 from the tower at UT. Up to you though I guess.
     
  3. Northside Storm

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    Right, the mass pickup truck murders have become quite a thing, especially in large, confined spaces.

    The components of homemade explosives and even the possession of the Anarchist's Cookbook are pretty tightly controlled. So too are the things that go into making chemical weapons. Buy too many of either, and don't be surprised if the FBI shows up at your door.

    Maybe gun laws should take a hint based on that. You'll never stop everything, but there's a reason why the large majority of these rampage murders are committed with guns, and not driving a pickup truck through a cinema.
     
  4. CometsWin

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    It took him an hour and a half to do that. How many would he have killed with an AR15 and some 30mags in an hour and a half? Your arguments are reaaaally bad.
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    He killed more than a guy who had that stuff. End of story.
     
  6. False

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    You can't even answer the question. It's a simple question that you seem to be avoiding like your life depended on it. I've asked in many times and I've been stonewalled just as many times by you mainly, but also by Refman and Tallanvor. The example of VT does not answer the question. You could have provided the example of a certain evil dictator using poisonous gas to kill more people. You could even use the example of someone using a plane to crash into a building to kill more people. Neither of those are relevant to answering my question. The question is this, all things being equal, which is more dangerous in a crowded theater as people run as fast as they can to get out, the guy with the handgun with a 7 round magazine or the guy with the AR-15 with the 30 round magazine.
     
  7. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    The capacity of a college kid in 2012 to kill 15 people in 60 seconds is somehow equivalent to an ex-Marine sharpshooter taking an hour and a half in the 1960's. Good job.
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    I answered your question with an example. You haven't answered ANY question of mine. What features do you want to ban. What about the Browning etc.
    Thanks
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    We are speaking in relative terms here. An assault rifle HAS GREATER RANGE than a pistol. Assault rifles have longer barrels and use ammunition that produce greater range.
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    Using a basic understanding of physics and some common sense which type of ammo is designed for range and accuracy?
    The point is that assault riffles have enough range and capacity to through out the reason for owning them for personal defense.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    Right, but if you argument is based on range, why is 5.56 your enemy? I'd rather have a 300 Win Mag at 300 yards. In a bolt action.

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  11. fchowd0311

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    jesus i'm talking about assault rifles in general. Not just 5.56... Assault Rifles are the happy medium between high capacity and range something that someone who is looking for a gun to buy for personal defense should not be looking for.
     
  12. Bandwagoner

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    Assault rifles in general (and the civilian semi auto rifle versions) are by definition small caliber. Marines used to carry M14's and before that Garands (and before that bolt actions)
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    Are you arguing for argument's sake? Assault rifles have greater capacity AND range than a pistol... something that you do not need when you are being mugged or when your home is being broken into.
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    Did you train in CQB? Pretty sure you used a rifle right?
     
  15. False

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    The Browning as far as I could tell from the unhelpful amount of info you provided likely does not need to be banned. From what I understand it likely heats up fast and would therefore not be very desirable as a weapon for someone who would seek to maximize casualties in the shortest amount of time. However, magazine size above 5 should be severely restricted. Seems sufficient to allow for sporting use.

    Ok, now your turn, answer my question.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    yes, but I would of preferred a pistol...?? I'm assuming you are arguing the fact that we used assault rifles for close quarters thus it is acceptable to use assault rifles for personal defense? The only reason we used assault rifles for CQB was because the Marine Corps did not deem it necessary for every infantry rifleman to have a rifle and a pistol.

    Still dodging my statement... ASSAULT RIFLES ARE OVERKILL FOR PERSONAL DEFENSE.
     
  17. Bandwagoner

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    False. Has same heat characteristics as any other rifle with similar barrel and cartridge.

    Sorry what was your strawman question? If I would rather have a mace or an fn m249? I'll take the SAW.
     
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    I see you're beginning to understand the futility of trying to engage him in a discussion.
     
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  19. Bandwagoner

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    Most all forces use rifle cartridges for CQB.
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    I would love a discussion. It would require people to not completely abandon their previous points as soon as I engage it. I have high hopes for fchowd0311
     

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