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[Movie] Batman 3

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  1. VanityHalfBlack

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    5 hrs bro, seriously???? How long will you wait when The Hobbit comes out, Thanksgiving???
     
  2. mrm32

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    It was a free early screening. There were people waiting for 10+ hours. I don't care for the hobbit or lord of the rings for that matter.
     
  3. tonyt8605

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    Here are my answers to your plot gaps:

    [SPOILER}]The reason why it is suppose to be impossible to escape from that prison is because of the fact that Batman was not afraid of death. When you're not afraid of death you act wrecklessly. You dont push yourself to the limit to ensure not dying. So when Bruce finally embraced the fear of death, it pushed him to go above and beyond to make that final jump. Also when Batman first fought Bane, he wasn't afraid and thus Bane knew or thought he would never learn to fear death.[/SPOILER]

    The reason why all forces swarmed the sewers is because they knew Bane was down their on account of Gordon and Blakes' intel. So Gordon told them to flood Bane out by storming the sewers.

    Bane and Talia wanted Gotham to have hope in the face of impending doom. That was the sick part of it. To make someone truly suffer is for them to always think there is hope that it will get better. Why kill the cops. Make the citizens think because they are alive that there is a chance of defeating the evil. When in the end they were just going to blow up Gotham anyways.

    Lastly,the reason why Batman survived is this: The bomb had a 6 mile blast radius. So when he attached it to the Bat, he went out into the ocean, ejected from the plane (which now is equipped with auto-pilot as we learned at the end) and escaped. That's a pretty clear explanantion

    Now while I agree all the details aren't perfect, this is by far a great great movie on par with the previous two.

    I don't compare the movies because they are meant for different themes and ideas. Independently, if this movie was the first Nolan Batman film, everyone would be floored by it.

    TDKR is amazing!
     
  4. tonyt8605

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    Here are my answers to your plot gaps:

    The reason why it is suppose to be impossible to escape from that prison is because of the fact that Batman was not afraid of death. When you're not afraid of death you act wrecklessly. You dont push yourself to the limit to ensure not dying. So when Bruce finally embraced the fear of death, it pushed him to go above and beyond to make that final jump. Also when Batman first fought Bane, he wasn't afraid and thus Bane knew or thought he would never learn to fear death.

    The reason why all forces swarmed the sewers is because they knew Bane was down their on account of Gordon and Blakes' intel. So Gordon told them to flood Bane out by storming the sewers.

    Bane and Talia wanted Gotham to have hope in the face of impending doom. That was the sick part of it. To make someone truly suffer is for them to always think there is hope that it will get better. Why kill the cops. Make the citizens think because they are alive that there is a chance of defeating the evil. When in the end they were just going to blow up Gotham anyways.

    Lastly,the reason why Batman survived is this: The bomb had a 6 mile blast radius. So when he attached it to the Bat, he went out into the ocean, ejected from the plane (which now is equipped with auto-pilot as we learned at the end) and escaped. That's a pretty clear explanantion

    Now while I agree all the details aren't perfect, this is by far a great great movie on par with the previous two.

    I don't compare the movies because they are meant for different themes and ideas. Independently, if this movie was the first Nolan Batman film, everyone would be floored by it.

    TDKR is amazing!
     
  5. VanityHalfBlack

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    Dude, from the trailers alone it looked spectacular.. Heck I might wait 5 hrs just to see it in IMAX...
     
  6. Bear_Bryant

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    How did Bane know that Batman was Bruce Wayne?
     
  7. tonyt8605

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    Since he was trained with league and worked with Ra's and Tali'a, then that how he knew since they knew.
     
  8. blink

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    Easily the worse movie out of the three. Bane was forgettable, plot holes here and there, boring parts. The end was good but everything that lead up to it was meh.

    For me,

    Tdk >= begins >> tdkr
     
  9. nachbarFTW

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    ^^ I completely disagree. I thought this was the best movie of the trilogy. I would use the word incredible. I just loved it
     
  10. TheBornLoser

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    Fusion bomb. Not fission. No fallout, no radiation.

    That's the clean power Bruce and Miranda (Talia) were trying to invest in at the beginning of the movie. Fusion power.... one of the cleanest, most sustainable energy possible (if not the most) simply because of one fact. It emits no radiation. Bruce managed to build the only fusion power core available, but the fact that Doctor Pavel wrote a paper on how one could turn a fusion power core into a nuclear bomb caused him to... "shelve" the project.... until the movie started :grin:

    To date in our non-Batman universe, no one has ever been able to crack the fusion energy code yet ;)
     
  11. tonyt8605

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    This!
     
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    Most impressed by: Nolan's ability to weave all the individual sets and locations through multiple city's (NY and Pittsburgh) into a seamless view of Gotham city. This is the grandest scaled movie I have ever seen, and for the setting to just flow so seamlessly I thought was true craftmanship by Nolan.
     
  13. Ziggy

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    It'll take me awhile to decide if I liked this one more than TDK. The more I watch Begins the more I actually dislike it. That one feels weak now, mostly because the bar is higher now and Nolan really was breaking new ground with that one. Also, I imagine Nolan didn't get to do everything he wanted to do with Begins, the studio was probably watching closely. The good news is that Rises retroactively makes Begins and TDK better movies. It's a truly special trilogy.

    Only complaint is the forced Robin line. That line wasn't necessary. Did the studio insist on it? He could have simply carried the Batman torch. Carried on the symbol that Nolan hedged 3 movies on. At least let the audience imagine what he'd be then leave it to be decided by the next director. Oh well. Minor gripe, felt it was cheesy.

    The Bat Wing... vehicles never excite me. Aside from The Enterprise they seem gimmicky to me. So when I saw it in the previews I was like - "oh geez, here we go" - not the case though. That thing was badass.

    The first scenes with Batman in them, when the cops are after him, that felt special. Can't put my finger on it... it just carried a lot of weight. Then the scene where Bane breaks him - possibly the best scene of the entire trilogy. Really powerful sequence.
     
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    Wow. Just a brilliant and powerful ending to the trilogy.

    My only complaints
    I felt the reveal about Harvey Dent's death got buried in the larger chaos that was happening. I would have liked to see more of a fallout there, with the citizens and with Gordon. It seemed like they were hoping for it to be an unexpected but welcome catalyst for the anarchy to be unleashed, but nothing really came of it. At least something that would the citizens of Gotham emotional, but it didn't..or weren't shown that it did.

    Foley's death was awkward. It felt like a bad edit there. It's like they forgot they are a PG-13 movie and tried to be PG. They show him firing his weapon, then cut to the tank and then back to him dead and no blood or bruises on him at all. That sequence could have been cut better.

    A little hard to understand Bane and the inmates at the underground prison sometimes.

    Was a bit predictable.

    The awesome
    Pretty much all the performances. Bane was as intimidating and formidable as he should be. Hathaway nailed Selina Kyle and makes you forget Michelle Pfieffer. The tumbler bike with the gyro wheels. The bat wing. The slow buildup of the film from beginning to end, with an ever constant tension, thanks to an incredible score. The ending scene to perfectly wrap up the trilogy but making you crave more.

    Oh and the Superman trailer...wow too.
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    Fusion bombs have fallout and radiation. LOL
     
  16. JeffB

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    Depends on if the fusion bomb is initiated by a fission component. Presumably, the bomb in the movie is a pure fusion bomb with no fission component. In that case, no (or at most, very little) deadly fallout. At least according to various googled sources, the lack of fallout is one of the big appeals of fusion bombs.

    Very much enjoyed the film. Great acting, great score, cleverly constructed. Good filmmaking and touch dealing with implausible subject matter in superherodom.
     
  17. Rox11

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    When the movie ended, without hesitation everyone and i started clapping in a sold out showing. It was awesome! Def going to watch a few more times!
     
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    I'm glad the wheels got clarified- that's something that confused me and everyone that I knew from that scene in TDK.

    And as far as people claiming that Nolan was forced by WB to do this or that- really? You don't think that at this point he has complete authority over what he wants to do? Churned out hit after hit after hit, was given the chance to do his pet project (Inception), which, oh yeah, was also a HUGE hit. You don't think at this point that he can go in to any meeting and have all the leverage? Please. This movie was made on Nolan's terms.
     
  19. mrm32

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    Anyone catch
    the scar on Talia's back?

    The camera seemed to focus on it as Bruce noticed it as well but nothing came of it.
     
  20. got em COACH

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    No but i do noticed the wart on the bruce wayne's right eye and one on miranda's forehead. Could be related :p
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