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Dwight update: Not close to a trade with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by t0mdotcom, Jul 13, 2012.

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  1. Vpballa916

    Vpballa916 Member

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    "sleaze" ??

    are you kidding me? when Dwight Howard opted into his last year of his contract, he gave up all power and control over his immediate future. There is nothing sleazy about Houston potentially landing Dwight, at all. If a player is under contract, it is fair game. If a player is a free agent, he can do as he pleases.

    Dwight is not dumb, he is just unsure of himself. He knew that by opting in, this could potentially happen.

    "Houston, we have a problem."

    i think Dwight is a problem worth having.
     
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  2. CKent

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    You are only looking at it from Dwight's perspective. Orlando has a much bigger responsibility to its fan base and paying customers to get the best deal they can regardless if it suits DH just as Houston has a responsibility to take a shot on obtaining a franchise player. Organizations are not and should not be in the business of letting talent walk out the door without maximizing the return.

    As far as Dwight wanting to play/work where he wants to it is certainly his right, after this season when he is actually a free agent. But everyone can't play in LA, everyone can't play in NY. There just isn't room.
     
  3. Kojirou

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    So because he's played for them several years, Orlando should be his b****? Forget the salary cap, forget parity, forget the CBA or any restrictions on players. If Dwight wants to play for Brooklyn, and only Brooklyn, Orlando should send him there and be grateful to receive anything.

    Furthermore, I'm naturally assuming that this applies with other stars. If they want to go to Brooklyn, then the team that drafted them should oblige them, and players should be able to go where they like regardless of salary cap rules. And since most stars would rather play for Brooklyn than Houston, than the Rockets and really any team not in New York and LA should just forget everything and be happy to be the dogs of those teams.
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Why is this "sleaze"? On one hand you say Dwight deserves to go to wherever he likes. On the other hand, you say the Orlando GM's job is to get what he can in value for Howard.

    If Howard is traded to another team this year (e.g. Houston), the Rockets can give him more money that any other team next season, so Orlando will be doing Howard a favor by trading him because he will have that option with whatever team he is traded to. Of course, Howard would have that same opportunity with the Magic.

    In addition, Howard has never said he would not sign an extension in Houston. He has simply stated that he will explore free agency.
     
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    You are entitled to your opinion, but they make you sound like a Laker or Howard fan instead of a Rockets fan. As for Howard, if he wanted to play where he wanted to win a championship, all he had to do was to spend two months in Houston playing last year, and then he could be a Net right now along with DWilliams and Joe Johnson!

    The real issue is that he wants his cake, the iciing and to eat it too, and sometimes the real world doesn't work that way. HOWARD IS ABOUT THE MONEY, first and foremost...or otherwise he would already be a NET today.

    That's why Morey is going for him so hard, because regardless of how immature he is, he is still talented and most importantly...HE WILL SIGN WITH WHO CAN PAY HIM THE MOST MONEY NEXT YEAR!
     
  6. OremLK

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    He IS a Laker fan. More specifically, a Laker troll.
     
  7. Vpballa916

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    in that case, Houston fans should be flattered.
     
  8. Vpballa916

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    to be honest, Cleveland looks like they have more attractive trade chips to offer than Houston.

    They have Anderson Varejao and Dion Waiters that they can give Orlando, and they'd probably be able to take on salary as well.

    Houston has the cap space, but not the attractive pieces.

    I think i'm going to puke if Dwight Howard ends up in LA.

    Hennigan, surprise me and land James Harden and Ibaka for Dwight Howard.

    that'd be something to talk about.
     
  9. rolyat93

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    LOL. Stopped reading here.
     
  10. D-rock

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    No I think you miss the point. By a country mile. Dwight Howard did not serve Orlando without compensation and it is asinine to think that Orlando should not maximize its return.

    And Morey as a competent executive is trying to parlay his assets for maximum value as well. Your "sleaze" comment is Dolan-esque.
     
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    Sam Amick



    Before I duck out again, a Dwight Howard note: the Magic, I'm told, are hopeful that they can pull the trigger on a deal by early August (although I certainly couldn't tell you which one it might be). That being said, new GM Rob Hennigan - who I had the pleasure of meeting for the first time in Vegas - is proving to be very prudent in this process, meaning those hopes won't be realized if the deal simply isn't up to his standard's. The Magic's coaching search continues, too, and I'd be surprised at this point if the job doesn't ultimately go to San Antonio's Jacque Vaughn (though that's informed opinion, not reporting any imminent hiring).
    about an hour ago
    http://sulia.com/channel/basketball/f/f18e2272-8f07-421f-a1a8-8743ea5cdb2d/?source=twitter-

    Not sure if this was posted but it looks like it will end in a couple of weeks sort of proves what the one orlando poster posted as far as August 3 or whatever
     
  12. Vpballa916

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    that's better than anything that the Rockets can conjure up.

    it's going to be tough to sell Orlando with Cap Space as its primary selling point.

    Cleveland has the same gambit that Houston has, along with more attractive pieces to offer.
     
  13. CDave

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    No I'm looking at it from everyone's perspective.

    This is the NBA which is a small community of STAR entertainers, their agents and sports franchises worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars.

    It's not the wholesale distribution shoe factory corporation in Anywhere, USA.

    Also remember that superstar free agents or soon to be free agents in this league are a relatively uncommon occurrence.

    So there's an obligation in this small community, especially when superstars are involved with changing teams to make sure as much as possible that the needs of all sides are reasonably addressed. That's why these deals are hard to get done.

    Unfortunately, it's not always possible to satisfy every consideration.

    But make no mistake, the reputation of an organization in this very small and very elite community, will generally be defined by it's alumni (those who have come before).

    Making Dwight's life incredibly more complicated in the guise of "getting the best deal they can regardless if it suits DH" can be very shortsighted on their part and very likely will be remembered the next time they're trying to sign a superstar.

    At a minimum the GMs involved better make sure that they've done what is reasonable for them to do to try to accommodate Dwight along with getting a deal that helps their teams.
     
  14. Vpballa916

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    with that mentality, EVERYONE should get what they want.

    Houston has proven itself as a class organization, they don't need Dwight Howard to validate that.

    if anything, Dwight is the entity in all of this that has a lot to prove. He has to prove that he can be a leader, someone that can be depended on to lead and inspire his teammates.

    Daryl Morey is done with being a middling team, and i commend him for taking a risk and trying to change things for the betterment of the organization.

    Being a middling team every year, and battling for an 8th seed is not a winning strategy.

    Morey's wised up, good stuff
     
  15. rolyat93

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    Are you serious?!? Anderson FREAKING Varejao is better than anything we have? Lulz, I'll just stop myself here, because Varejao has almost no value, especially to a team like Orlando.
     
  16. CDave

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    Okay so if you're right then please give me another example in the age of free agency in the NBA where a superstar with a year remaining before becoming a free agent, was deliberately unloaded to a destination where he had made it clear he didn't want to be.

    And I qualified the use of the term "sleaze" by saying it only applies if it's true that Dwight's being exiled to Houston against his will.
     
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  18. Vpballa916

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    this is actually a proposal that has been discussed, if reports are to believed. so it's not so far fetched.
     
  19. CDave

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    EVERYONE is not a superstar free agent in this league. In fact there are very few. Dwight happens to be one of them.

    Dwight's obligation to prove anything to anybody has been met for the most part through his tenure in ORLANDO. He came into the NBA, he signed his deal and he's lived up to it.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Please provide a link where HOWARD said he did not want to play in Houston? You, yourself said it was the Orlando's GM job to get value for Howard. Again, how is that sleaze? Wouldn't the only "sleaze" in this whole ordeal being Howard refusing to abide by the terms of his NBA contract?
     
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