D'Oh-bama!: If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.

Funny how desperate they are to find some sort of "gotcha line" to use as an attack. Look how much energy they are putting towards all the images to try to brand Obama as a commie who is anti-business and entrepreneurship.

It the ad world, they call it trying too hard. When a brand makes a claim that doesn't fit with people's basic reality - they simply assume that the brand is blowing smoke up their butt.

In this case, this line of attach will back-fire because swing voters won't actually think Obama would say this since it is....ridiculous after all. But it will make conservatives feel better about themselves.

 

See now how Romney will set himself up to make a fool out of himself. He's such an idiot when it comes to politics. Can we trust this man to lead people? Seems he only knows how to cheat the tax code.

Now eventually they will make a campaign ad with that....and juxtapose Obama saying this after Steve Jobs died:

This just shows that Romney will do anything to distort the truth and show how ridiculous the right has become. And how stupid they are to set themselves up to look foolish.

From NBC News...

 

Not really, those are Obama's core beliefs. Success is a product of good fortune and exploitation, not hard work or intelligence. Therefore the rich have no moral claim on their wealth.

 

You might as well believe the Jews were behind 9/11 while you are at it.

 

Obama believes that people achieve things only through exploitation, Obama is da debil!

 

Yes, the taxes that ALL of us, not just business owners, pay.

I know your butt hurts now, Lidocain can help with that.

 

I don't get this; everyone benefits from most of that very same stuff-- even the employed, the unemployed and the don't-wanna-be-employed.

Some have stepped out at personal risk and sacrifice and created something above and beyond what others even attempted. Why deny their accomplishment?

 

He is not denying it, listen to everything he is saying. He is just saying, hey, you had some help. Gov't has a role to play here. It provides things that help people be successful at business. Say like...the internet!

Why is that so hard for conservatives to grasp?

 

It's an easy concept to grasp; it's just a question of the magnitude of the role played by the government.

If you create the next big thing and become hugely successful, how much credit would you allocate to your hard work and innovation? And how much credit would you give the government?

Personally, I think that the credit given to the gov't for building roads, internet, etc would be on par with the credit given to trees for producing oxygen.

 

How exactly do you think he "cheated" the tax code?

Wouldn't it be more fair to say that he exploited perfectly legal loopholes within the parameters of the tax code?

 

If it's a loophole, it's by definition something that wasn't intended to work the way it does. By many people's standards, finding ways around the system that was intended would fit under the idea of cheating. Doesn't necessarily mean it was illegal, though.

Flopping in basketball is a way of manipulating the rules to work in your favor as they weren't intended. Lots of people consider flopping to be cheating, though it's not illegal.

 

If he's abiding by the parameters of the tax code, then he obviously isn't cheating it.

Not really a good analogy. Flopping isn't manipulating the rules. It's manipulating the refs who are supposed to enforce the rules. There's nothing wrong with the rules themselves.

 

That's fine. Assuming that though, there is a great leap between recognizing the tree-produced oxygen had even a little to do with your success and using your success as a justification for cutting down all the trees. It is a leap the Republican Party has apparently already made.

 

Obama didn't deny their accomplishment, he acknowledged it and reminded everyone that the first word in the Constitution is "We," not "I."

 

That depends on how you define cheating. You're defining it legally. Other people use the term more generally. Illegal, immoral, tricking the system or doing things not-as-intended are all different things and can all be interpretations of cheating.

 

Exploiting loopholes within the tax code is neither illegal, immoral, nor is it tricking the system. There is absolutely nothing wrong with following the rules in such a way that it serves your best interests.

 

Agree. If the majority feels that taking advantage of the tax laws is immoral if not illegal, then change the tax laws. Personally, if I had the power I would make the tax laws simple and fair to all (graduated flat tax?).

 

Exploiting legal loopholes is gaming the system. It might be technically legally, but it's clearly bending the code to get an advantage one was not intended. And while it might be legal, it is still cheating.

 

Except the people who benefit from the code will never allow it to be changed unless it is changed to their even GREATER benefit.

 

Absolutely wrong.

It's pretty clear you don't know the definition of the word "cheating".