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Dwight update: Not close to a trade with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by t0mdotcom, Jul 13, 2012.

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  1. BigBird

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    the Max dwight can extend is for 3 years. If he does not extend his current deal he can go into free agency and sign a 5 year/108m bird rights deal. Which would be considered a new deal, not an extension.
     
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  2. houston#1

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    What is a bird rights deal? Why is it called a bird?
     
  3. BigBird

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    From Wikipedia
     
  4. moreyball

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    after big bird
     
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  5. ZTiger87

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    If a team has a player's Bird Rights that means that they can go over the salary cap to sign that player and can also give him 5 years instead of 4 and give him 7.5% yearly raises instead of 4.5%. It's called Birds Rights because the Celtics were the 1st team allowed to go over the salary cap to resign a player. That player was Larry Bird.
     
  6. MadMax

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    it's only fitting that you were the one to answer that question.
     
  7. mazinger

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    Early bird gets the worm?
     
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    Ahhh nice catch. I see the relationship.... because Big Bird is yellow and Larry Bird kind of had blonde hair.
     
  9. Da_Spark

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    D-Will didn't want to e a Net. It doesn't matter what Dwight wants. The only thing you should worry about is what Hennigan and the Magic wants.

    You replied to my post but didn't bother reading it. Why would Morey settle for Bynum when neither player won't commit. Dwight won't commit to any team. Bynum won't commit as well. Now tell me why the heck would Morey choose the lesser player?

    The package Orlando wants is exactly what Houston has. So what's the point in facilitating? Honestly, if you ask me, i'd be ok with either centers. So this is about me wanting Dwight. Lakers need a 3rd team to facilitate a Dwight trade. Houston doesn't.

    Let me put this simple. Analyze this:

    *Dwight won't commit to any team. Not even Brooklyn. According to his agent today.
    *Bynum also denied reports that he would consider signing an extension to any other team. This was also reported today.
    *Orlando wants future picks, young prospects, and dump contracts.
    *Houston is willing to provide all those. Heck name at least 4 remaining players from last year's rotation who's still on this roster right now? Everyone knows who his main target is from day one.
    *Lakers need a 3rd team in order to facilitate a Dwight deal (someone who's willing to do a Bynum rental)

    Now tell me, why would Houston get Bynum instead of Dwight? And why would they send Dwight to LA when Orlando wants Houston's package, not Bynum.

    ORL-LAL-HOU 3-way rumors started from an old report that Bynum would consider signing long term with the Rockets and earlier reports that Dwight was willing to do the same with LA. Now that both rumors have been squashed by theor agents. This 3-way deal is dead. That's exactly why the Lakers tried the Cavs to get involved. That scenario didn't last long did it? Why? The cavs don't wanna give up assets.
     
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  10. Da_Spark

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    This is NOT about me wanting Dwight. If you ask me, i'd also be fine with this current team with Asik as the center. As long as we have a legit center. But if we're getting Dwight, of course i would prefer that scenario. I'd also be ok with having Bynum. He's the 2nd best centernin this league and has a more polished post up game than Dwight, IMO.

    But gathering all the facts, is definitely Dwight we're ending up with. Either we agree or not. I've based my opinion and analogy with all the obvious facts that are right infront of our eyes.
     
  11. Joe Joe

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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/v5BJGCh_eCY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    Andrew Bynum has started over 55 games in a season just 3 times in his 8 year career, and people are more worried about Dwights back eventhough last year was the only year in his 8 year career hes ever played less than 78 games...

    Bynum has averaged over 10 rebounds in only 2 seasons in his entire career while Howard has averaged 12 or more his entire carrer except his rookie year when he had 10.....

    Last year was the first year Bynum has averaged more than 15 pnts, Howars had avged more than 15 pnts a game his entire career ecept for his rookie year...

    Bynum is 24 Howard is 26....why would anyone want Bynum over Howard?? Sure hes a good consolation prize but Howard should be our ONLY target right now IMO..
     
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    Howard definitely has a better chance to be healthy moving forward.

    It's kind of like gamble on Bynum's health versus gamble on Dwight signing an extension.

    I've been thinking about this a lot and I think the odds are about the same, honestly. What pushes me over toward the Dwight side is that he's the better player.
     
  14. Aruba77

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    great breakdown of potential Dwight salary structures. Further clarifies why the Rockets strongly believe the team that trades for him will be the team he resigns with:

    http://ht.ly/coapO
     
  15. Cstyle42

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    Well the drop from Howard to Bynum vs Howard to Asik is huge. Asik as a backup to either or would give us the best tandem at center in the league but to just end up with Asik would be Rockets staying content which Les Alexander called stupid. On the other hand I believe giving everything up for Howard or Bynum is stupid too so I believe the best thing to do is stay aggressive and make the best deal possible that means we gotta be patient. Hopefully Morey makes the right decision.
     
  16. Chuck 4

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    Yeah, $30 million is a lot of dough to leave behind.
     
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    Duh...

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    Is the relationship between my name and Larry Bird always going to be discussed when I talk about Larry Bird/Bird Rights Deals/Things Poultry? Lovely
     
  19. cogs

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    If I had to pick one, I would much rather have a rental for a year playing at a good level then give up a long term contract with someone with proven bad knees that can't stay healthy. The rental will be over and we can move on and get past it. A broken down player (remember McGrady) with a large contract will haunt us much longer than I want to deal with. DH or move on. Period. No Bynum.
     
  20. zksb09

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    Interesting post and article. However, from the numbers that have been thrown around for the increase in money received from shoe deals ($100-$200 million over many years), he might prefer a big market area if one were to become available. Don't know if any of those NY/LA teams could position themselves between now and next year to make that happen.
    But point is, that NBA contract money might be small in relation to shoe contract money.
     
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