Yea its a bit premature to say Lee will be on the team, but I sure would love to have him back in Rockets uniform
Signing Omer Asik to a three-year, $25 million contract to potentially be the team's starting center is definitely a gamble. You provide good evidence of that, juicystream. Could this be another Ariza deal? Possibly. But Morey was able to mitigate that overspending by flipping him a year later for a better player (Courtney Lee) on a much more favorable contract. While he might not be able to get another Lee:Ariza player value ratio, there will ALWAYS be a market for centers, so I think he could possibly find a taker for Asik if he doesn't work out in Houston. I'm going to give this front office the benefit of the doubt.
i don't have a issue with the contract for asik if he is starting… but if dwight comes and we have asik playing 15min a game for 8 mill a season then this contract is turrible.. elite defender or not.. if he was that elite he would be starting imo.. there is no bench player worth 8 mill a season..
My understanding is that if we trade Asik, the other team would get his cap hit at the 5/5/15 instead of 8/8/8 that we have. Is that correct? My initial thought was your thinking, that Morey would flip it for something like he seems to do with the mistakes he does make, but thinking about a team taking on $15M is hard for me to see.
Does that mean Brooks was the 4th guard in the rotation? Or Dragic after we traded for him? I don't even know if Lee was first off the bench, as Adelman played Lowry and Brooks played together a ton. Lee had the least minutes of all our guards, only five more minutes than Asik. Keep in mind that the center position is very inflexible. it's much easier for teams to go small and play two power forwards together than it is for two centers to play together. Asik cannot play when Noah is on the floor, just like Camby can't play when Dalembert is on the floor. We'd play Scola and Patterson together before we do that. The same was true for Orlando when Gortat was there, which is why he played even fewer minutes than Asik, even fewer minutes than a sophmore Ryan Anderson. Minutes played for backup centers playing behind all-stars is hardly indicative of their talent level. I think we're overpaying for Asik, but there really isn't enough of a sample size of him as a starter for me to confidently say that.
i think the rockets are waiting on Lee to see if we get Dwight or not. if we get Howard, we keep Lee so he has a buddy.
They take the same cap hit of whoever signed him. So if we sign him and trade him year 3 is 8 mil for receiving team, if bulls match and trade 3rd season would be 15 mil for the team receiving.
Im pretty sure that if we traded Asik, his cap number would be the same as it is for us; just over $8 mil per.
No, because they did not play without one of Lowry/Brooks/Dragic on the floor. Lee was usually playing SG/SF. He always got significant game action. They played frequently without Asik. Asik had tons of games where he only played in garbage time and when the other guys were in extreme foul trouble. Other than that he was a matchup guy in Chicago. Asik and Noah can play at the same time. Noah has played at PF plenty in his career, but Taj Gibson and Boozer playing PF is why he plays C almost exclusively. I watched a lot of Chicago Bulls games last year, and how Thibs handled that rotation. If Asik was getting regular minutes and average around 20, I wouldn't think anything of it or if he was playing behind Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, and Lamar Odom. After Gortat showed promise when given minutes with Howard out, they started playing him at PF along with Howard.
Nope. As others have noted, any team that acquires Asik from the Rockets would take the same $8.3M cap hit in each year of the contract. I've still got a line out to Larry Coon trying to button down exactly how the SALARY (as opposed to the cap hit) would be treated if Lin or Asik were traded by the Rockets prior to Year 3. I'll post/tweet whatever response I get from him.
You are quoting the wrong topic on Larry Coon's FAQ. That quote came from the "Poison Pill provision" FAQ. While people have been calling the Lin offer sheet a "poison pill contract", that was just a figure of speech and is NOT the same thing as the "Poison Pill provision" in the FAQs. The Poison Pill provision refers to what happens when you give a first round pick a huge extension prior to the completion of his rookie deal, and you decide to trade that player after the huge extension is signed but before the extension actually kicks in on the team's cap. The Lin and Asik situations--involving the "Gilbert Arenas rule"--are completely separate and apart from your quoted language. I just wanted to nip that in the bud before more people got confused.
