D'Oh-bama!: If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.

Not really.

 

Only for people trying to find an interpretation to fit their absurd caricature of what they think President Obama is.

 

No I think the issue is you seem to be making some argument that contributions or attempted contributions to mankind should be directly proportional to your wages. When I said contributed I meant that person provided labor that was worthy of compensation.

Well you are totally wrong here with a massive lack of knowledge with respect to research on grid computing. The applications and algorithms are at the very top of the build. No researcher cares what calculations done (which are proprietary anyways) they are just trying to get the highest FLOPS with least errors and lowest energy etc. The knowledge is extremely useful for any distributed system.

Thats fine but I still totally disagree we are experiencing a talent vacuum in the maths and sciences. For the most part diverging math and science into different fields does wonders for advancements as solutions found for those fields likely can be applied to many others and provide new outlooks.

 

As ignorant as I am at grid solutions and computing, my quick research seems to indicate that it is IBM and Silicon Valley that is pushing the hardest on this, and not BOA or JP Morgan. Regardless, even if Wall Street pushed harder, it is once again a small contribution in the light of major destruction.

For example, for the very first time in many years, the average Canadian family now has a higher net worth than the average American family. That can almost single-handily be put on the exotic financial instruments Wall Street crafted that blew up on them.

I can say for finance that this is blatantly false.

I don't particularly regard naked credit-default swaps and other exotic off-balance sheet items "wonders for advancement".

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2009/12/08/volcker-praises-the-atm-blasts-finance-execs-experts/

 

The incentives are all perverse. You can earn more screwing your fellow man than helping him in so many instances that---in my more cynical days---I laugh at the extent sometimes.

It's why I can't blame most people who do it. A lot of things are aligned to make people do wrong.

 

lol

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Hightop again.

 

Octave Chanute wants to challenge the idea that the Wright Brothers were the only two that built that plane.



As would Charlie Taylor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Taylor_(mechanic)

Whats that... you never heard of Octave Chanute or Charlie Taylor? So as you can see... you find people that helped other people...

 

I suppose that the schools that educated them, the Smithsonian which gave them information on flight, or the US weather service which provided them with the optimal time for their experiments didn't help at all? You two continue to make yourselves look stupid. Also, want to go ahead and show me where Obama said that businessmen didn't build their own products?

 

Romney outsourced our Olympics...

In Romney-helmed games, Olympic uniforms outsourced to Burma

(CBS News) Last Friday, amid uproar over news that this year's U.S. Olympic opening ceremony uniforms were made in China, Mitt Romney remained noticeably mum on the issue.

Asked by CBS News' Jan Crawford if the U.S. Olympics team uniforms should be made in America, Romney, who was the president and CEO of the Olympic Winter Games in Salt Lake City in 2002, declined to weigh in.

"I don't know the particulars of the circumstance so I really can't comment on that," Romney told Crawford. "I presume they have sponsors who are associated with uniforms and matters of that nature so I'm not going to weigh in to the decision."

That the 2012 uniforms were not made in the U.S. is not without precedent: Ralph Lauren, which has made the Olympic uniforms for three games running (and is also set to make them in 2014), outsourced production of the uniforms in 2008 and 2010 as well, according to the New York Times.

And in 2002, when Romney was at the helm of the Salt Lake City Olympics, the outfits were produced in Burma, as the Huffington Post pointed out last night.

This fact was a source of some protest in 2002, particularly given the Burmese government's history of dictatorship and long track record of human rights violations. A 2002 story from the Los Angeles Times reported on groups protesting the uniforms, made by Marker Outerwear, "because of the uniform maker's alleged ties to inhumane working conditions in Myanmar."

In a Sunday story, the Guardian UK quoted Susan Bonfield, a torch carrier for the 2002 games, remembering her outrage at seeing the 2002 uniform labels. (The Daily Kos, a liberal website, posted a picture of what appears to be the uniform and its label, which reads "Made in Burma (Myanmar)".)

"When I looked at the label for the uniform, I went nuts. When you are sending work representing the US to a military dictatorship, I have an issue with that," she told the Guardian.

The decade-old controversy has particular resonance at the moment, not only because of the kerfuffle over the 2012 uniforms, but also due to questions surrounding Romney's history at Bain Capital and whether or not he was involved with controversial company decisions, some of which resulted in outsourced labor.

The Romney campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

 

high school dropouts

 

Can they read, can they wright (no pun intended), did they develop social interaction skills?

 

Their dad was a bishop, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they learned to read with the Bible and did most socializing within a church.

 

Education

Neither Wilbur or Orville Wright received a high school diploma. Wilbur completed his senior year at Richmond High School in Indiana with good grades (about a 95 average), but did not apply for a diploma. The Wright family moved to Dayton, Ohio before commencement and Wilbur never went back to claim his certificate. Orville started a printing business when he was 15 years old and was running a weekly newspaper by his junior year of high school. His grades were mediocre (except for the sciences) and he had obviously lost interest in school, so he did not go back for his senior year.

http://www.wright-brothers.org/Information_Desk/Just_the_Facts/Trivia/Wright_Trivia.htm

Regardless of all this, it's pointless to compare the inventors of the airplane in 1899 with the businessmen of the modern day. They're barely even the same species.

 

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Ok dude, they got absolutely nothing of worth from the time they started school till highschool.

 

You are the one arguing with a funny picture.

 

...damnit.

 

Wow, I am shocked... a right wing commentator, going onto Fox News, to give right wing talking points to criticize Obama. Shocked I tell you!

 

Stop being so silly. You know exactly what he is saying. If you take away the gov't, you have no interstate, no internet, no army's to defend our freedom, no clean water or air, no mobile networks, no schools, no banking system, no power grid, no postal system.

No individual business built that. It was built by the gov't. And every business utilizes these services. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

His point is that you can't start a company without these things. I know that from personal experience. I'd like to see someone start a business in Somalia and then say they still disagree with Obama.