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What is Romney Hiding?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rashmon, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. Raven

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    Outsourcing and off shoring is hard work?
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    You clearly don't know what consultants and private equity guys do. You're ignorant on the topic.
     
  3. thadeus

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    They **** and piss all over American people with real jobs who need to work.
     
  4. QdoubleA

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    You're ignorant in the subject of politics and equality, and yet here you are...
     
  5. Commodore

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    Obama is going to roll out one of the SQUIRRELS every second week of the month until the election to try and distract from the the previous Friday's job report.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Don't feed the troll guys.

    Private Equity guys and consultants aren't the evil empire here. They are sharks though. They restructure and finance businesses to make a profit for the investors and for themselves. They do not do it to create jobs, they do it to make money. However, the net of that usually is positive for the long-term value of shareholders.

    Bain is considered very successful because they bat .500. That means half the deals work out, and half fail. The ones that work out work out well for them and generate more than enough to cover the losses on the failures. Again, it's not about creating jobs, its about increasing value. In the beginning, Bain Capital was a venture capitalist and created companies like staples. But now, the buy struggling companies, restructure them, and help sell or merge them more than build them back to profitability. But it does that too - consider Toy R Us. It might not be around if Bain had not bought it out.

    Now...to Mitt Romney's role. He's a capitalist. Nothing more nothing less. If you wanted to finance something, he'd be a great guy to do that. He knows a lot of about that stuff. But that is not the role of a president. That's the role of a treasury secretary. Plus the role of president isn't to make holders of U.S. bonds get a better return, it's to raise employment and ensure a strong solid future for the company. That's not what Bain Capital does. So it's hard to see how his experience at Bain will help him be president. But I don't think it hurts it either. I don't think his business experience makes him more or less fit than most other politicians.

    I also don't think he was working at Bain past 1999 nor should he be called an "out-sourcer in chief". The attacks are pretty paper thin.

    What clear is this though. Politics is like this. There are many lies and b.s. stories about Obama - far more. Obama has a lot of skill in this area after 4 years of being attacked on everything from his wife, to his citizenship and patriotism, to his experience, to his religion, to his friends, and on and on. It's ridiculous.

    Romney crying about it and asking for an apology....he might as well just cry and say "It's so unfair!". He is really shooting himself in the foot. It looks so bad. It shows weakness. Instead, he should embrace his record and just come clean about his taxes. he should release documents and open up to show that he has nothing to hide. He is doing the opposite, and it will doom him.

    The issue people will have with Romney is not his record at Bain, it's how he handles these attacks. If the man can't handle this pressure by looking presidential, what's he going to do when a world crisis erupts? That's why people don't like Romney. No one knows who he is going to listen to and what's he going to do.

    He's just a business man, not a world leader. Not a guy that inspires people. Not a guy you trust with your back.

    And the whole tax thing is so sketchy that his own party is beginning to wonder what he is hiding.


    Game set match. Romney just lost the election.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley
    Former Missisippi Gov. Barbour
    North Carolina Rep. Walter Jones
    Michael Steele
    Texas Rep. Pete Sessions


    What do these 5 men have in common? yes they are all staunch Republicans. Yes, they are all involved in GOP relection efforts.

    And yes, they all called on Romney to release his tax records this past week.

    Wow, you'd think they were some kind of slimeball liberals on a witch hunt or something.
     
  8. KingCheetah

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    GREGORY: He [Romney] was still financially linked to Bain. And of course, a lot his fortune is due to his time with Bain. Even when he was on leave, does he stand by the business decisions that were made by the firm he created?

    GILLESPIE: He actually retired retroactively at that point. He ended up not going back to the firm after his time in Salt Lake City. So he was actually retired from Bain.


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  9. Rashmon

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ud3mMj0AZZk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    And yet he was paid $100,000 at least twice after 1999, was on the record as the CEO. It really makes you wonder, The Romney people have decided that it is better to appear as secretive and a tax evader (within the loopholes of the law) than to show what is in his previous years taxes.
     
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    John McCain Looked At Romney’s Tax Returns And Decided Palin Would Be A Better VP.

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  12. ktbballplaya

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    I'm not knocking romney for making his money. The whole point is he came out saying I can create jobs because he knows how the private sector works. Romney speaks in so many generalities with never giving specifics or details. Romney wants us to believe everything he says with his credibility already shaky. John McCain supposedly has 30 years worth of Romney tax returns when he was vetting for a VP, just show the paperwork!
     
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    This ad is so brutal and nasty...all you can do is feel sorry for Mitt. Ouch, this is going to hurt.

    I think this ad will go down in political history and one of the most brilliant and devastating political attack ads right up there with Barry Golderwater's daisy.

    And Romney can't go after Obama for lying since ever comment is sourced. He's have to attack the "liberal" media as well and that is just not going to be a convincing argument.

    He's in big trouble.
     
  15. Rashmon

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    Ouch, that's got to hurt...

    “He has only released one year, to the McCain campaign he released 23 years. And he’s telling the people, ‘I’m not going to give you what I gave John McCain’s people in 2008.’ And when he gave them 23 years, John McCain’s campaign looked at it and went, ‘Let’s go with Sarah Palin.’ So whatever’s in there is far worse than just the first year.”

    Meanwhile...

    Sarah Palin: I’m still waiting for my convention invite
     
  16. ktbballplaya

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    uh, yeah, we've seen Obama's pitiful results from his first term. Unemployment is a national disgrace. He has to resort to trying to belittle one of America's most successful businessman's accomplishments, since he can't run on his own achievements. Just another slimy chicago-style political campaign.

    All this is simply hilarious, considering Obama has no business experience to speak of. He was a "community organizer"! LOL
     
  18. QdoubleA

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    So your saying he went from that, to senator, to president of the United States of America? Wow. Sounds like an incredible guy.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    Mitt's response? I'm just like John Kerry['s wife]....


    ...you sure are Mitt.

    Heh heh heh.
     
  20. da_juice

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    I think you overestimate the American electorate.
     

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