D'Oh-bama!: If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.

Sounds like a great speech from the president, the only way to feel badly about what he said is if you dislike him for some other reason. Notice how basso did not point out or describe what the president said that was wrong, because he can't. You would criticize how the Mr. Obama tied his shoes, and the American people are fully aware of the nuttery of people like you and bigtex and arn't falling for it. Nice try.

 

Why won't Romney release his tax statements?

 

Nothing wrong with what he said.

 

basso, I can't help but notice that you've failed to recant the clearly false story you posted yesterday.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=223332

 

Yep, you started a business. That's great! But do you have any employees? If yes, who provided education to your employees? Who provided transportation to your employees so they can come work? Who hired police and firemen to protect your business or minimize damages when accident or scam happen? If your business requires delivery of anything, who built the infrastructure so your business can use it?

Yep, you started a business, but you didn't build it all by yourself unless you are one man company. Even that, how many people can start a successful business without any kind of education provided by the government? Saying that just show how self-centered and narrow minded you are for not seeing the full picture.

With that kind of vision, I am sure your business is not getting anywhere soon.

 

If you own the business you pay for all/most of those things......

In other words, those things come at the business owner's expense.

 

Typical liberal thinking, that all successful people owe their government. Quickly followed by a demand that successful people pay even more in taxes so Oblamer can redistribute wealth.

man I can't wait until that clown is out of office. He's so unbelievably bad

 

It's true. I own a small business. It wouldn't exist if not for the roads that were built by someone else. Or the water and electric lines that were put in. Or the tax system that lets Austin as a city exist. Or any number of other things.

 

Really? Of the things he listed, my business didn't pay for:

Fire or police protection
Education of my employees
Infrastructure so people can use my business

It sort of pays for transportation in the form of wages that people can use to buy cars, bikes, gas, etc. The rest is subsidized by everyone in the country through taxes.

 

You pay for your share of all those things.

you paid for education, fire and police protection, and infrastructure. It's called taxes.

 

Not really - Businesses probably get more out of that infrastructure than does the average non-business owner. So I get a larger share but at the same cost. But in general, yes we all pay for it.

Sounds like you agree with Obama, as that's what he was saying. If you do more than take one line out of context, he basically said lots of people are part of the process of the success of businesses. If not for all those things above, my business wouldn't exist. Thus, I didn't do it all on my own just because I was smarter than everyone else.

 

I am not gonna debate 'probably's.

I don't agree with Obama at all. this :

"Somebody else made that happen."

is simply not true in many cases. Many business owners I know would find this comment offensive and untrue. If you pay someone to do something it is being done at your expense.

 

What is Romney hiding?

 

Chicken and egg scenario, all the infrastructure is paid for by wealth, which can only come from economic growth, which comes from businesses taking risks and succeeding. Any government action that inhibits this is worthy of extreme skepticism and scrutiny.

I guess Obama is trying to recreate the wildly successful George McGovern coalition with his attacks on capitalism.

 

I'll remember that for the future - I assume you will never make any sorts of projections or defend and policy ideas unless you can guarantee them to work 100% as suggested.

OK - just wanted to clarify that you're more interested in taking a sentence out of context and trying to create an attack, rather than actually looking at what he said in context.

Similarly, I take issue with these statements of yours:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=222373

"By all means just don't look at the economy. "

I think its absurd that you don't think we should be looking at the economy.

"Don't know how you define position."

Do you really not know about to define the word position? It's not that difficult.

"I care if my president tweets pics of his wiener, but if it's just a senator I'll still vote for him"

I think it's pretty stupid that you'd vote for a Senator but not a President that tweets pics of his weiner. And really weird.

 

Stupid commie.

 

I interpret Obama's statements as meaning; if you own a business, it came at the expense of someone else. Is this not how you interpret it?