[ESPN] Sources: New trade offer in works (for Dwight Howard)

Yes... Did we forget that "Superman" has super strength and can fly? :grin:

 

Okay, lets forget about Dwight, just give me reason's why you don't expect them to become stars or even just all-star's?

Besides their draft slot.

 

What if neither match :grin::grin:

 

It would only be fitting should we acquire him on friday the 13th

 

No.

We're also trading for all his expensive teammates that are overly paid and don't want to play with Dwight.

The Houston Magic.

 

This I kinda agree with... Our plan of direction of this team has changed since we amnestied Scola... Plus by not signing these two to an offer sheet, it will give us the necessary cap space to possibly sign Josh Smith and Possibky CP3 to near max deals.

 

F'ing grammar police.

 

because the other teams have an incentive to let the Rockets (and others) know they will match to try to scare the rockets away. If no team presents them with an offer sheet, then the teams can offer them less money since there is no competition.

Morey structured the contracts with the INTENT of screwing over the Bulls and Knicks with their cap room, to make the decision more difficult. Also, they overpaid (for Asik) to try to pry him away from the Bulls, or at least make them think twice. The teams therefore will pound their chests and scream from the hilltops about matching to try to get the Rox to back down and scare them away, so that they can do more favorable deals with their players.

There.

 

More Orlando Magic Fans responses (continuation from page 59).

I also like how they're talking like it's a done deal and making the next trades

 

Lol, that's so funny and yet sad.

 

So they can opt not to even send offer sheets at this point, even if they agreed to it during the moratorium?

Then why the argument from others that we have to wait to see how those pan out?

 

Z-Bo, Gerald Wallace and Tony Parker were picked after #16 in 2001
Boozer and Prince after #16 in 2002
some good, but not great players picked after #16 in 2003 (Barbosa, David West), so you can have 03'
Al Jeff was #15, Kevin Martin #26 in 2004
Granger, David Lee, Ersan, Gortat all picked after #16 in 2005
Rondo, Lowry, and Milsap all picked after #16 in 2006
some good, but not great players picked after #16 in 2007 (Marc Gasol, Wilson Chandler), so you can have 07'
Hibbert, McGee, Ibaka, Batum, all picked after #16 in 08'
no real stars in 09' after #16 except Lawson, so you can have 09'

and anything more recent than that is not fair cause it's too early to know.

Even non-lotto picks can turn out to be stars; or really good players. Given our good trackrecord in the draft with late picks, it's not a leap of faith to think we wouldn't do well higher in the lotto.

 

But using context, thats such a silly way to prove your point.
I don't get why people depend on past picks at a specific number to gauge the current pick at said number. There's far too many variables that would throw that logic off.

1) If thats the case, then what's the point of continuing to draft into the 2nd round. By that standard you're almost guaranteeing yourself a waste of time. But people fall through the cracks and somehow get missed. Who's to say that one of those diamonds in the rough is anyone in the top 18 picks or somewhere deep in the 2nd round??

but mainly

2) This logic would be more concrete if it were the same people taking players at the same picks imo. All of those past choices were chosen by a pool of different GM's with different needs, wants, and ideologies. You put Khan in position to pick a #15 pick? More than likely, based off his history, he's going to land a dud. But if a super/smarter GM gets 15, history re-writes itself.

 

Anyone have a link to the quote at the Magical board?

 

I personally agree that we need a superstar. I also agree that the price we are paying is VERY high. I would be OK with that IF the ransom was for a superstar that could shoot free throws. Down the stretch, teams can hack him and win the game. I rather pay less and get Bynum. Why are we giving up SO much when no one else is able to come close?

 

Typically players who turn into NBA stars were dominant in college.

Lamb: I think he has great size (unreal arm length). He'll be a good defender and you can count on him to make every open shot. He's a good shooter. I still don't think he's willing enough to drive and part of that is due to the fact that he's not built. He turns the ball over too much cause his ball handling skills aren't too good.

White: He's good at everything. He can score, he can pass, he can rebound, he can defend. But there's nothing he's great at. I love the type of player he is. He prefers to handle the ball which he probably won't get to do much of in the NBA. But he still goes all out. Drives hard. Boxes out. Defends his man. But he takes a lot of stupid shots (can't shoot well from outside or from free throw line). He's another guy that needs to control his turn overs. And on top of everything, he still has some anxiety issues...

These are just my thoughts. These guys could turn out to be Kobe and Lebron for all I know. Or they could turn out to be Adam Morrison and Joe Alexander.

 

Just started to read this thread. NO !!!

What is the point of building little advantages for years and then giving away all the little gains and more?

If true, i dont get it.

Now to the last few pages to hopefully find it was all bs.

 

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Not personally a fan, but I figured worst-case scenario it could at least lighten up the situation.

 

Y'all are getting cold feet, and she hasn't even said "yes"

Geesh have some of y'all not been paying attention to Morey's GM aptitude. He's proven without a doubt that he can find talented under utilized NBA talent.

Honestly everyone on the Roster is fair game for Howard. Heck the whole Roster is fair game.

think about it, what are the Rockets giving up. What projects to marginal NBA talent and some hidden gems (which Morey can find draft after draft). Sure there could be a gem in the bunch, but that's a risk....


If Howard walks, then so be it. But you can't fault Morey and the Rockets for going all in. Isn't this what everyone here has been crying for. Now a lot of you are getting cold feet.

Hence I say "Y'all are getting cold feet and she hasn't even said yes"

 

There not all bad, Im a Magic fan and you have to realize none of us want to Trade the Dwight Howard we drafted or the 7 yrs that followed. 2 yrs ago if you would have said LBJ for Howard 90% of Magic fans would have laughed in peoples faces. The truth is he does not want to play for the Magic, the bad blood is there from some of the players (Nelson) all the way to the top with Martins (VP). After all of us thinking we were getting that garbage from the Nets for a couple of days, getting Cap relief, 4/5 players Potiental and draft picks actually seems like a steal when in all actuality that is a very small price to pay for the Best big man in the Game in a league where there are not even a hand full that can slow him down.

If Howard resigns with Houston you guys win this trade hands down, no questions asked even if Lamb is the next Rudy Gay or Parsons turns into a Brent Berry in his prime or even if we get Muhommad in next years draft for the Toronto pick. There are also some other things you guys should know that Im sure Morey has thought about and heard from the Magic.

-Dwights Back, He will be ready before trainning camp, the only reason that ppl say Jan is because Bucher started that crap and Dwights ppl were not dening that report to anyone besides the Nets.

-Big Baby, this guy was a monster when Dwight went out, he plays with all heart and at 6 million a year would be a very good replacment for Scola. Most if not all Magic fans do not want him as apart of this trade but understand his 3 years remaining must go if they can to give us the most flexability.

-What your giving up? nobody knows what the Rockets are giving up even if it is Lamb,Jones,White,Parsons,Patterson,Morris and Martin and Picks because besides Martin none of them are proven. At best none of them will be Dwight, Durant or LBJ so rest assured. Also not one of them was a top 10 pick, go look back and count on your hands in the past 10 drafts how many all stars came from outside the top 10. The Magic are gainning assets and cap space to rebuild but will be in the same situation you guys are in now with alot of assets and no superstar and with a hope that one comes on the market so we can do the same thing Morey is doing now.