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[Feigen] Rockets consider amnestying Scola, as talks with the Magic grow "serious"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HMMMHMM, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. DonnyMost

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    THIS.
     
  3. moreyball

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    If Orlando says they're willing to trade for Bynum without extension just to get rid of a bad contract or two, wouldn't we lose leverage? I think LA would be willing to trade for Dwight without a guarantee.
     
  4. rocketman84

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    Schooling folks on the art of negotiating.
     
  5. Aruba77

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    Again, there's nothing that says Houston has to make a deal with Orlando. If Orlando wants to deal directly with LA for Bynum without a guarantee he'll resign, so be it. Then we go after Bynum in free agency. At least we'll still have our cap flexiblity to do it.
     
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    He's "schooling" people even though he really has no idea what leverage the Rockets have. For all we know Orlando is having serious discussions with Atlanta, Houston and LA. This idea that we have Orlando's nuts on the dressers is goofy.
     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    As a Rockets fan, the idea of Nash/Kobe/Crazyballs/Howard is not a good thing.
     
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

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    That team has a 2 season life span at best.

    Building around a 24 yr old Bynum could help build a 6 year contender.
     
  9. aelliott

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    Unfortunately for Orlando the Lakers dont have the cap flexibility to absorb any additional contracts.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    If it makes your team better, you do it. Unless you have a better alternative. Lakers or no Lakers.
     
  11. sammy

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    Bynum isn't going to commit to Orlando past this year. If he does, this will be over but that's not likely.

    I wouldn't want Horford at 12 if I was Orlando. That does nothing for them in building a contender.

    Maybe a sleeper like GS could step in though.
     
  12. Dubious

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    The Rockets are not desperate. They are in the drivers seat. If there is one thing we have learned about Morey it is that he values flexibility. We absolutely would trade a ton for Howard or Bynum but he would not trade away so much that the best outcome would be continued mediocrity, what's the point? (unless he has another directive from the owner???)

    If we make the trade we will retain enough potential (first rounders) for the team to improve rapidly around Howard, or, enough cap maneuverability that we can promise Dwight we will take a shot at a Max player in 2013 to pair him with if he re-ups.

    I just don't see Morey giving up both avenues to winning just to sell 2012 tickets.

    My uneducated guess right now is this will not get done until Montiejunas is trade eligible. He seems like the one piece that would placate Orlando's need to get a big something in return. I think Morey will take contracts but not all of them.

    I think also, Orlando's intense cap pain will need to be spread out, so a 3 team deal with Bynum is the more likely route.

    The deal will look dead for 90 days and magically reappear.
     
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    you're missing the point bro. We don't have to make a deal. Orlando does. We can't worry about what other teams are offering. If we start to do that, we'll overpay. Houston's assets appear to be the best option for a team that needs to blow it up and rebuild, but we can't control what other teams offer.
     
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    Completely don't believe it. Bynum is good, but he's flaky. He's like a taller, quieter Artest.
     
  15. rhadamanthus

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    Making your team better while in the process creating a potential juggernaut opponent seems kind of dumb. Woooo, we got into the playoffs this year and then got beat to hell - by a team we helped put together. Hardly progress.

    Anyhow. I see your point. I guess I just find the whole thing annoying at this point.
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    By the time the Bynum-led Rockets are "contending", Nash will be retired and Kobe will be entering his twilight.

    Helping the Lakers become a juggernaut for the next 2 years doesn't bother me if it means the Rockets finally get out of the goddamned woods, and hopefully stay out for 5+ years.
     
  17. Aruba77

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    it is possible to make Houston better without making LA better. There is life beyond the Dwightmare.
     
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    Which is why I said, "Unless you have a better alternative".

    If it comes down to Bynum or nothing. Which it might. Give me Bynum.
     
  19. Dubious

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    The point is to field a winning team that can qualify for the playoffs.
    It sells tickets, gets you extra playoff revenue, and if you do make the playoffs, anything can happen.

    winning!
     
  20. rhadamanthus

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    I can see that....except that Bynum ain't gonna be the piece to help us find the path. My two cents.
     

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