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[Local Orlando News] Dwight Howard trade could be imminent

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Fullcourt, Jul 6, 2012.

  1. ApolloRLB

    ApolloRLB Member

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    They want Bynum. Everything being leaked screams it. Hennigan can take as long as he wants and Houston will always be available as his consolation.
     
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  2. meh

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    What's funny is that I think if Brook Lopez played for the Rockets the past few years, he'd be CF's favorite whipping boy. A 7 footer who doesn't rebound like a big nor shut down the paint like a big. People would be blasting him every game. Heck, Yao gets blasted all the time for not being able to reboudn, and he averaged 9+rpg for his career
     
  3. clutch citizen

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    The Lakers win if Bynum and Howard both agree to sign extensions with their new teams. All indications are that neither of them are willing to do that.

    Brook Lopez's height is like his potential, just too tall for him to fill. He does not play like a 7 footer. There are point guards that have a better sense of rebounding than him. defensively, he is slow. Good offensive player. But this guy is coming off a foot injury. Similar to Yao and other big men. Not a good sign if you want to build around him. I can't believe I am even talking about Brook freaking Lopez as a franchise player. He is not a very good center and is coming off a serious injury that shows a negative trend to big men anyway.

    The other thing is that there is absolutely zero potential with Lopez. He is what he is. A known commodity in the NBA. The Rockets have players that are young and have shown flashes of a good NBA career. You bashed Patterson and Morris. While I don't believe they are our best prospects, they are good ones nonetheless. At the very least, they are not as worthless as you portray them to be.

    Patterson came off ankle surgery to remove bone chips. He admitted that he thought the lockout would drag on longer, which led him to push his surgery back. He owned up to his mistake, but he still played. New offense, new coach, short season, not playing until mid season ... don't you think all of these are huge factors to overcome as a SECOND year player? Patterson showed flashes of being an absolute beast his rookie year. You know ... Last year.

    Morris suffers the same issue. Rookie. No offseason training camp. He did not get to play because of the depth we had at his position, both small forward and power forward, although I believe he is a small forward. Parsons' emergence was a factor as well. Parsons was not a knock on Morris, he even surpassed Budinger for the starting role. Even with no PT to determine his ability in the NBA, he has a ton more upside than Brook Lopez.

    Martin and Scola are proven commodities that expire next year. Cap flexibility for a rebuilding team. If they don't want them, Morey is accumulating high value first rounders. Torontos first rounder a d even Houston's future first rounders both should be projected way better than a Lakers team or Nets team with Dwight Howard. What good are Brooklyn's next 5 first rounders every other year if they have Howard with Dwill, Wallace and Johnson? Might as well call the, second rounders.
     
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  4. DAROckets

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    Yea nothing worse than a 7 footer who get's 5 reb a game .. He should get that many just by accident.
     
  5. teebone21

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    nba wants it to happen so it will happen. Superteams the the new future for years to come until the taxes become to much for some owners to pay
     
  6. BigMaloe

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    Brilliantly said... would rep if i could...
     
  7. Dream lover

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    Seriously?
    1. Trade for a Bynum who is reported that he wouldn't sign an extension with the Magic. Which is the very reason they are trying to trade Howard, so why would they swap one guy who wants out of town for another guy who wants out of town.
    2. Lopez, wow what an upside. Yet, wow, what a downside. Surgery to repair stress fracture in his foot. Sound familiar? Maybe the Magic will be okay with just playing him 24min. a game while giving him a max contract. So possible guy with foot problems (i.e. Bill Walton, Yao Ming....) with a max contract to try and rebuild with. Does that sound smart to you?
    3. Rockets with a couple of solid veterans, and plenty of first round draft picks and young talent that leaves you with great cap flexibilty going into the future.

    Man the Rockets trade just really stinks...or maybe Orlando is trying to find a way to ship Howard to his preferd destination without having to take Broke Lopez.
     
  8. Fullcourt

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Contrary to some reports, Nets do not have deal in place for DH. Much maneuvering on tap, I'm informed. First 10 scenarios unacceptable.</p>&mdash; Peter Vecsey (@PeterVecsey1) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterVecsey1/status/222195313295892480" data-datetime="2012-07-09T05:07:45+00:00">July 9, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Comp 4 DH has been narrowed to Nets &amp; "still lurking" Houston. W/Lakers evidently out of picture up to Nets to satisfy OM, I'm informed.</p>&mdash; Peter Vecsey (@PeterVecsey1) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterVecsey1/status/222198454867345408" data-datetime="2012-07-09T05:20:14+00:00">July 9, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Cleveland is being reported as an outpost for KH. That's not definite. Another team showing interest in him that would allow OM to get more</p>&mdash; Peter Vecsey (@PeterVecsey1) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterVecsey1/status/222199196390924290" data-datetime="2012-07-09T05:23:11+00:00">July 9, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Nets GM Billy King is flying to Vegas Monday morning to watch Deron Williams w/ Team USA. No Dwight Howard deal imminent, still work to do.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/222189434995605506" data-datetime="2012-07-09T04:44:24+00:00">July 9, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Nets are finding traction beyond third-team involvement of Cleveland to find a landing spot for Kris Humphries, league sources tell Y!</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/222189005503078402" data-datetime="2012-07-09T04:42:41+00:00">July 9, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  10. meh

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    I think this is an important point. Houston is in a bad negotiating position because Morey has no other options. It's not like there's a separate deal for another superstar out there. If Orlando waits another 2 months, the Rockets would still have the same players and the same picks. They can't move in another direction anyway.

    So of course Orlando is going to talk to everyone but Houston. And there's nothing the Rockets can do besides wait and hope no one else give Orlando the farm for him.
     
  11. BigMaloe

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    Idk who that is but i like what he speaks...
     
  12. The_Yoyo

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    Peter Vecsey is still a reliable source of info?

    2012 is indeed upon us!
     
  13. clos4life

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    Basically, up to the Nets to screw this up if what this guy says is true.
     
  14. HamJam

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    Interesting stuff from Vescey. I am still having a hard time imagining the Magic making the deal with the Nets. I mean, a package based around Lopez? And I'm assuming Lopez is going to get a 10 mill plus deal. So you get a mediocre center with injury issues on a bad long term deal? Plus, I don't see how the Magic shed much salary in any Nets deal.

    That deal would actually do what many here in the GARM keep erroneously saying the Houston deal would do -- namely, turn the Magic into what the Rockets have been: into a middling team without prospects to improve in the draft or to win a playoff series, much less a title. The Rockets deal would help them hit rock bottom and do what New Orleans did this last season.

    If the Magic are really going to trade Dwight they would be insane to do the Nets deal. They need to get rid of bad contracts and add youth -- not add bad contracts like Lopez to the bad deals they already have.

    I'm not saying Houston is the only option, but christ, the Nets seem to have one of the worst possible deals for a team going through what the Magic are. If it ends up happening I am just going to assume that the Russian Mafia played a key role in the trade negotiations.
     
  15. gmoney411

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    lol my reaction to that was first, peter vecsey has a twitter account?, and second, people follow him?
     
  16. clutch citizen

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    Agreed. Not sure why the Nets are even in the running. They have a terrible trade package for a franchise player. Why? Well, well they used their big guns in the trade for Deron Williams. How cam a franchise trade for two franchise players in back to back years?

    I'll leave it to the imagination of private investigators to answer that one.
     
  17. BigMaloe

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    Exactly....
     
  18. DAROckets

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    Mine was .. isn't he dead yet ?
     
  19. hooroo

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    Woj is reporting the same
     
  20. OremLK

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    I agree. I don't see what the Nets could possibly have to offer. Unless a sign & trade of Humphries has FAR more value than I think. You have to believe the Rockets have vastly more tradeable assets than New Jersey, at very least. Now if there is some unreported dark horse team or something changes with the LA situation, those two things I could see. But I just can't believe there is any reasonable scenario where New Jersey has more to offer than we do.
     

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