see i think this helps bolster the point though. if the team is well run from top to bottom and you do your homework and draft the right people, people respect that. the spurs have been lucky enough to keep duncan/robinson (when he played)/parker/ginoboli around. if duncan or parker had started in cleveland, who knows if they hang around. i'm all for free agency, the players deserve to have that, doesnt mean that teaming up and forming super teams by choice should be liked by all. i noticed someone else mention how the celtics were the first to form a "super team" so to speak. i can see that, i think a lot of the pass they get is because the celtics wheeled and dealt to make that happen. cleveland on the other hand was left with nothing...and now have to rebuild completely. seems like a small thing, but it does make a big difference imo. again this argument rages back and forth all the time. either the people who dislike miami are "haters" or the people who like miami are "bandwagoners" or whatever. i just think in terms of the sport itself dynasties are good for the owners more then fans. i believe that across all sports. parity in sports should be celebrated by fans.
Personally i like this, it just adds to the drama between the two team when they go up against one another next season.
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Not 1, not 2, not 3... Who's laughing now? They'll be going to their third straight Finals. That's for damn sure. Camby is next.
What a dumb argument. Why would I give two shiet about the NBA being the "most successful" or not. Why should their TV ratings even matter to me when my team is suffering from the lack of parity created by players forcing their way into a few big markets. How does fairweather casuals blindly dickride, Jordan, Lebron Kobe etc. if they aren't on the team that I support. FlyerFanatic is completely right. Just because Parity never existed, doesn't mean it is right for the fans. Leagues should continue to fix their policies so it creates more equal competition, not ignore it because " it always existed, so get over it"
Except Ray and KG never actually "decided" to go to Boston. Both were acquired in acceptably fair trades. KG was dealt for Al Jefferson, first rounder Sebastian Telfair, first rounder Ryan Gomes, and veteran Theo Ratliff. Ray Allen was dealt for 5th pick Jeff Green and Wally Sczerbiak. It's not so much the quality of the team that people are upset with... it's the way the teams are formed. As bad as the Pau Gasol trade was, the backlash was minimal, because it was a front office decision by the Grizz (which didn't turn out so bad).
My question is why should Cleveland have received anything? They got him for 7 years and he was unrestricted. If you want something move him before he hits unrestricted status. And even then they got multiple picks back for a guy who could just walk.[/quote]
I don't care about Miami forming there team like most of these whiners. But why do peole keep comparing what Boston did to what Miami did? 2 of the big guys with Miami signed with them and now Ray Allen. Those Boston guys were traded to Boston so they didn't really have a choice. Either way not really a huge deal
Ding Ding Ding Boston wasn't exactly loyal to him then again maybe they signed Terry because they knew Ray was good as gone.
[/QUOTE] fair point, problem is james held all the leverage. could you imagine cleveland trading lebron? fans would have been just as upset. cleveland had a choice, but lets be real, didnt really have a choice in the matter. they had to hope lebron would come back. they fired mike brown and the GM (i think?) thinking it might help...then it was sit and wait. also i'm not saying cleveland should have received anything. i'm saying in fans minds, the celtics trading to acquire their big 3, looks a lot better then what looks like collusion between lebron, d-wade and bosh teaming up in miami. another argument i tend to see, is lebron didnt have the pieces to win it all in cleveland. which i don't really argue, i will say imo, cleveland did try its best to pick up and trade for guys to help out. so it wasn't like they weren't trying. though it seemed like you never heard lebron clamoring for anyone. which is odd because it seems like he has lobbied for people while with the heat. again, i'm not against free agency for athletes. they should all have it, i understand it was lebron, wade, and bosh's choice. that doesn't mean its best for fans or that fans should just accept it.
Still not exactly the same as the Miami situation. That was also after people begged for KG to demand out of Minnesota anyway.
Only because dudes were under contract and not free agents. And even then it doesn't get done without KG saying yes. He basically chose where he wanted to be. It baffles me that folks are ok with teams ripping off other teams to build these squads but knock free agents for doing it. 3 ways to build, draft, trade or free agency. Only one gives the players a choice. Let's not knock them for using it when the result is the same at the end of the day.
Nobody cares if you don't like it. The NBA is a business. They will do whatever it takes to make profits and draw large crowds. Until you can convince the casual fans of the NBA to start hating superstars and superteams, nothing is going to get done. Either that or loyal fans of the game start defecting in bunches. The NBA knows that whatever they do hardcore basketball fans will keep watching the NBA. That is why they are trying to appeal to the casual fan base, the ones that won't watch the league if they determine its boring. Is it right? No. Is it reasonable? Yeah, its all business.
