[ClutchFans] Rockets trade Lowry, stay focused on Howard

True story...

 

Yawn........ wake me up when Morey does something

 

Ken Berger: No developments on the Dwight Howard front. Lakers, Nets, Hawks, Mavs, Rockets all remain in play, league sources say. about 9 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1zsJ7RIoD

 

I think the longer it plays out, the better it is for us.

 

Yawn...... wake me up when you ever decide to post something worth 2 *****.

 

Yawn...... wake me up before you go go.

 

Peoples hate for morey is unwavering... nothing is good enough... if we decide to go young and tank its moreys fault, still cant land that superstar... if he acquires dwight, its dumb because he'll get injured, wanna leave thus causing a distraction, wont resign and leave us handicapped and delaying our rebuild... if we stay the course its because morey sucks and cant choose a direction, we will forever be mediocre...

People around here are ridiculous and short sighted... nothing is good enough and morey is the worst... pfft... pathetic...

Get howard, go balls to the wall and see what you can do... if you strike out ok thats fine start the rebuild and position yourself for the next disgruntled superstar...

You cant strike out if you dont swing... morey is swinging and swinging for the fences... i applaud him and his relentless dedication to improving this team and being in such a good financial/flexible situation...

 

Love the writing and article - think you are a great writer Clutch.

However, when you mention them not going after Dally like last year, I think they did a little of that by going after Asik and Lin.

Now they have to KNOW that Lin is going to be matched, why even set the price? I mean I guess it can not hurt, but why not take that money and sign Dragic?

I think you and I know the answer to that question, while Dragic is the better basketball player, he does not have the draw of Jeremy Lin, and one thing that has been perfectly clear is that Les is focused on butts in the seats.

So focused on that, in fact that he can not see the forest through the trees, and that is of tanking.

So, yeah, I don't mind the trade of Lowry, we can get Sessions or Brooks and get about equal production, but what baffles me, and frankly still pisses me off is not give Dragic what is basically a market value contract.

That to me, still sounds cheap.

DD

 

I think Dragic was going to leave no matter what. He finally gets to replace his predecessor and gets a guaranteed starting role.

It's also funny you say we trade Lowry and we can get equal production from Sessions or Brooks for Lowry but not Dragic. Certainly not Dragic because you put him up on your pedestal and he's head and shoulders better than Lowry right?

 

My prediction is Howard will bring a circus to Houston. Miss the start of the season and draw out his back injury for as long as possible. The team without Howard will be off to a terrible start most likelt, and by then it all goes downhill.

Eventually the Rockets will WANT to trade him, just as Orlando does now because they realize there is not much good you could do with having a unhappy player on your team.

Unfortunately for the Rockets though they will find that the deals are not what they used to be for Howard for a half a season. The usual teams will pop back up though and he likely gets sent to Brooklyn for whatever they can offer up. LA will have dropped out by then, they are already hesitant to deal Bynum.

Rockets will have wasted a year of rebuilding...and for those hoping "Now the Rockets will truly rebuild!" will be disappointed when the Morey patches up the roster and hops right back on the treadmill.

 

So, our selling point to Howard is we are rebuilding, but we will pay you $25M more than any other team for you to hand around a few years while they develop. And in 8 years when you are no longer able to contribute, you can let them carry you to a ring just like Juwon Howard..... I say forget Dwight Howard. Rebuild or don't rebuild. Not in between.

 

How about not go after disgruntled superstars and instead build your team around a drafted player? A strategy that has worked pretty well for almost all of the top teams the past decade...or decades....

 

you are a sick and cruel man ...but it sounds strangely plausable.

 

I've got to say, some of the 'back and forth' in regards to DHoward and Will He Stay or Will He Go Now has been strangely entertaining. The circular logic has been brilliant almost on the same level as modern political party rhetoric.

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It goes round & round & round and is largely based on nothing... The DHoward debate is almost as precious. It goes something like this...

Which garners a personal attack reply like...

Usually a quick venom filled retort...

And then the Coup de Gras...

Versions of this have played out all over the GARM. The reality is who knows what another man will or won't do. Especially one that is financially set regardless of the choice. Who knows what DHoward will or won't do when or if he becomes a Rocket, but since I am enjoying it so, I for one hope the debate continues.

It's a little like the old religious quandary. The response that is meant for those who argue that God is infallible and limitless. Oh yeah, can he create a rock that is so heavy he can't lift it or Well, can he create a pitcher that throws so fast he can strikeout God or Can he cook a plate of 8 hot wings that are so hot he can't eat them....

Once, I asked a friend of mine a version of this question. Now, I must confess that faith in such things is not my strong point. When I asked him, he gave me a puzzled look. He then said, "No... Because God cannot fail."

Again... Priceless.

 

The odd thing is, I'm usually pretty optimistic

But things usually don't end well when a player doesn't want to play for a team.

 

We are rebuilding

The problem is that we was waiting for Howard, Gordon, Josh Smith and in 2 days we a watching morey blowin it all, to be the worst team in the leage (Dallas are doing the same)

The last 2 years Morey told us that "Mr alexander always wants to win and doesnt want rebuild" we buy this and suddenly they change completly the direction.
Last year we trade a good 2nd for Camby. And why keeping Lee and Dragic. And now we are loosing all for nothing.
So Lowry and Alexander has completly change the way

The lowry trade is ok only in a rebuilding proccess (Phoenix make a better deal with UFA Nash btw)

Now Morey think that the way is having a lot of cap sapce with a lot of pics and young prospects
Maybe Morey is right and in a year from now at draft night we will be very happy with hundreds of option.
But it is very hard seen Dragic, lee and lowry gone basicaly for nothing, all that was build in 2 years was blow in 2 days.
Dont expect big moves, Howard isn't coming, Scola will be traded before trade deadline. Lin a Asik are lateral moves

It will be very hard watching the team the next year.

 

I actually think the selling point will be we can pay you $25M more than anyone else and every other team with capspace to sign you isn't as good as us now and won't have capspace to bring on another max player. Now that same selling point just worked with Deron Williams, even though one team could have arguably been a contender with him and signed him to a max deal (Dallas).

I still think he is going to LA but I see why we are still chasing. Can anyone list the teams with capspace in 2013 to give Howard a max offer? I know ATL is one. Dallas is another.

 

2 words in regards to dragic......."Player Option" that was the difference of signing him or letting him go stipulated in the 4th year of the contract

 

If we obtained Howard, there is absolutely zero chance that we trade him. Not going to happen.

 

How would you feel about the other name floated by some of our CF insiders- Andrew Bynum? Is he still a "second-tier star" just enough to keep us afloat?

IMO he is someone that is good enough and young enough for us to built around for the long haul. Of course the question is if he is healthy enough, but he wouldn't be availble otherwise.

As far as second tier stars, I am ok with them as long as we keep our flexibility, and they have upside. To have a team vying for the playoffs with budding allstars(albeit second tier) is not a bad thing to have. It increases everyone's trade value, keeps the fans(casual) happy, and the team relevant. All while looking to further upgrade and consolidate for that superstar. I realize that is what the Rockets have attempted to do lately, with very mixed results. One of the problems was 3/5ths of their starting lineup had ZERO upside last year- Martin/Scola/Dalembert. The other problem was we didn't win enough. The Rockets were actually trying to reload again with that same premise this summer with Dragic and Gordon. Imagine a team of Dragic/Gordon/Parsons/Scola/Asik. 4/5 of that lineup has tremendous upside. If they make the playoffs and make any noise at all, I guarantee you it would open up the option to consolidate or trade up in the draft if you so choose.

Of course Gordon didn't pick us and Dragic struck out on the other key pillar besides "upside" -flexibility(remember, the end game is to further upgrade in the future)- so that is all water under the bridge now. However, if we do strike out on Howard, going after Josh Smith may again present us with that path. He is a guy who has played in the shadow of a chucker his entire career, and excelled last year for the few games he had to carry his team. That is the sort of upside we want on this team IF we don't blow it all up. Again, I am ok with going a number of different routes, tanking being one of them, I just think that certain second tier stars that fit certain criterias aren't compltely off limits, if we choose to go that route.

Pau Gasol, by the way, does not fit neither route, at this point.