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Do you think Morey should be fired?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by GreatOne1978, Apr 19, 2012.

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Should Morey be fired

  1. Yes

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    30.7%
  2. No

    821 vote(s)
    69.3%
  1. Margrave

    Margrave Member

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    No meltdown, I am just fed up.
     
  2. thetatomatis

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    I think its actually pretty evident he cant the job done by now. He can only help us rebuild. At best he is gonna get Lin and Asik. Most likely just Asik. After all he went after he couldnt close the deal on multiple things. This is the first time he has struck out either. The people saying he hasnt struck out many times are the ones pulling stuff out of their ass trying to explain how he hasnt up to this point because its pretty much out in the open how many failures he has to close deals.
     
  3. cloudng8

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    who would we get at his replacement if we did fire him...?
     
  4. Margrave

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    He has been at the plate for 5 years, and has struck out more than Dave Kingman - oh sure he has a few solid singles, but he continually strikes out on anything significant.

    Letting Dragic walk was and is a huge deal.
     
  5. Margrave

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    There are plenty of people that understand basketball, and can hire a capologist like Bima to help them with the numbers.

    We need a basketball guy who understands the game, and more importantly player management.
     
  6. Ricksmith

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    LOL! Yeah, let's hire an internet poster as an assistant GM. Cause Morey doesn't know anything about cap space or loopholes in the CBA, right? Let's just bring back CD since he wasn't afraid to swing for the fences, even if it set the franchise back multiple years while doing so.
     
  7. thetatomatis

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    By the way there GMs out there to replace him with. Teams do it many times. Plus its not my job to find one. Its Les Alexanders and the organizations. If they already have a bad one? Who cares who they replace this bad GM with. Ok maybe not bad but bad at pulling off deals. Maybe he can be the new GMs assistant and be the guy who crunches the numbers for him while the other guy closes the deals?
     
  8. Nero

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    Did you ever consider that maybe Dragic WANTED to go back to Phoenix? Maybe he liked it there, and he preferred to go back to where he started and played under Nash who just LEFT, what better way to carry on that legacy?

    You people talk about signing players as though it is the same thing as going to the grocery store, loading up the cart, and just walking to the checkout line.

    That is not how it works.

    Seriously, what has gotten INTO you people?
     
  9. thetatomatis

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    He is average. At best. Proven with a seal of approval. Good at money and making moves for drafts. Good at evaluating some talent. Not good at acquiring it. Not good at convincing players to stay. Not good at making the Rockets a desirable location. Some players do not like him or his methods. Now since he cant do things like convince others to come here? His whole plan to do it that way is working against his strength. Which is rebuilding from the ground up. Now unless he is rebuilding this offseason? He is a failure at working toward his own strengths and against his weaknesses. Should be fired if he goes for another 500 season with his veterans again. Real simple.
     
  10. waytookrzy079

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    You guys do realize that Dragic was only going to sign here with a guarantee that he would be next year's starting PG right? Which means that LOWRY HAD to be traded before Dragic would sign here. Notice how as soon as the Nash deal was done, that's when Dragic signed - he knew there was no PG competition in PHX.

    If he traded away Lowry for a bag of peanuts and a garbage players to make room for Dragic and give dragic his $10+ mil/yr, you guys would criticize. Rather than bash Morey, i have yet to see any significant, well thought out plan that you guys would put together that Morey is not seeing or has not already approached, WHILE keeping this team competitive (as Les has wanted)

    It's easy to say "sign our players!" Well.. you guys do realize that "our players" are the ones that are putting us in mediocrity right? You guys want a BIG SPLASH trade, but you guys get pissed when the players get treated like assets and get traded. You guys want Morey to RE-SIGN our players regardless of price, but still want cap space to sign a big name FA.
     
  11. thetatomatis

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    He cant sign a big name free agent. So thats a fib.:)
     
  12. Margrave

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    Not sure, who "You people" are, but for me, I firmly believe you pay your best players and develop them.

    Dragic was the best PG the Rockets have had in years, he is athletic, has great court vision, plays excellent defense and is left handed (a major advantage).

    And the Rockets decided to let him walk instead of paying him a reasonable contract for a starting PG.

    That is not how you develop a winning culture or organizaton.

    Nero,

    Why don't you tell everyone how it works, since your head seems about ready to explode.

    Heh.
     
  13. MadMax

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    What's gotten into us is a roster of #assets with nothing resembling a team being built. Nothing at all. 45 power forwards...the hope of Asik at center...a PG who doesn't like the coach and has asked for a trade...a core of vets who've been just good enough to miss the playoffs 3 seasons in a row.

    Morey needs to show he can build a team...not just acquire assets he hopes someone will ultimately trade for. He's 5 years in and pro sports are a bottom line business where you're graded on results.
     
  14. wekko368

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    Absolutely right. And given the parameters Les has imposed as well as the injuries we've had, Morey's results have been fantastic.
     
  15. MadMax

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    No. They haven't. Not at all. So fantastic they can't make the playoffs, are no where closer to being a contender and people have stopped showing up.

    Good luck selling all this to the ticket buying base next season.

    The bottom line sucks.
     
  16. Margrave

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    This post should be required reading for anyone asking about whether Morey has done a good job or not.

    Just having assets is not building anything - is there one guy on the team that we can honestly say - he is our guy at position X for the next....heck 3 years?
     
  17. smr6

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    James McAdoo will be in the top 5 next year if he doesn't do anything to hurt his draft status. As a matter of fact, he is a 6'9 PF so he would fit right in here!
     
  18. thetatomatis

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    Been awful still if its to make the playoffs/remain competitive.
     
  19. DaFranchise03

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    just look at their roster.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2012.html 11-12
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2011.html 10-11
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2010.html 09-10

    Look at the constant change in roster. Then check all the rumors, attempted trades, vetoed trades and etc that have gone on.

    - Look at the recent players. from 10-11 to now
    - Trade martin and Dragic and tried to include them in deal for Gasol. Scola has been here awhile so his case is a little different.
    - After trading for Dragic 2 years ago, they let him walk cause of a fourth years players option? Dumb
    - Trade for Lee. Then tried to trade him for Asik. Now possible let him walk.
    - Got Jordan Hill in deal traded for pick
    - Signed Brad Miller (one of the very few free agent signings) traded year later to Wolves
    - Kept Jermaine Taylor around organization traded to kings
    -Trade for T-Will tried to trade him but couldnt so they waived him
    Draft Bud - traded 3 years later
    - Aaron Brooks- traded for Dragic
    - Battier traded even though he said he wanted to stay.
    - Traded for Flynn and Thabeet- traded for Camby

    From that roster 10-11. Only 3 players were not rumored to be traded or expected to be let go. Patterson who is now fighting with 20 other PFs for playing time. Chuck Hayes who they let walk cause of money difference. Yao cause of financial reasons but retired eventually.

    There are very few teams looking to make moves like the Rockets. Rockets get players cause they hope to use them to get better players. There will times where some teams do the same but not with their entire roster. Pretty much all other teams get players cause they think they can make their team better. I am not saying most players are untouchable on other teams but they dont seek to trade them like the Rockets.
     
  20. DaFranchise03

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    Those other teams that are making multiple trades and redoing their entire roster are teams looking to clean house and rebuild.

    Rockets are not trying to rebuild like the Bobcats and Hornets. They are trying to stay competitive. Those teams will become more attractable once they get their core pieces. Bobcats trying to blow it up and have started to rebuild. Hornets now have Davis, Rivers, and Gordon to build around. So their turnaround time will be much shorter
     

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