Does this signing essentially take the nets out of this years' sweepstakes for dwight? so its basically down to us and lakers. lakers can offer best player by far in bynum but his injury history and extension situation is a negative. Also lakers don't have any other prospects and can't offer cap releif. hou can offer 1 really good starter on cheap contract, 1 expiring in martin for cap relief, any combination of our youth and future picks including mavs who are reloading. orl takes our package and tank for a couple years
Those picks will be in the late 20's. Without cap relief for the Magic, having Lopez sign a long term deal (he'll insist, by the way) with mediocre talents like Brooks and Mr. Kardashian is pointless. The Hawks have more to offer.
Spoiler http://t.co/dryzrLjh I hope Mirza Teletovic is good, because signing him basically precludes the possibility of the Brooklyn Nets ever getting Dwight Howard. The Nets announced the latest in a flurry of offseason moves today, starting with a mid-level exception deal for the Bosnian forward, moving on to a sign-and-trade deal for the Clippers' Reggie Evans and capping it off with the news that Deron Williams will return on a five-year deal worth nearly $100 million. All of this is heady stuff for a team that went 22-44 this past season, after already coming to terms with free-agent forward Gerald Wallace and engingeering a huge trade for Hawks guard Joe Johnson. The Nets also are talking about trading for Howard, or re-signing free-agent center Brook Lopez and re-upping power fowrard Kris Humphries, and by the way they'd like to use their biannual exception to perhaps bring in Jason Kidd at backup point guard. But there are rules about this stuff, and the Nets are in the process of colliding with them before they can achieve those final steps. The Teletovic deal is for the non-taxpayers' midlevel exception, which caps the Nets' salaries at $74,307,000 million for 2012-13. They cannot go over by one cent at any point. Put in Williams at $17,177,193, Wallace at $8.9 million, Evans at $1.6 million, Teletovic at $5.0 million, Johnson at $19,752, 645, and MarShon Brooks at $1,160,040 and the Nets are already in a pickle before they even pick up a phone to call Orlando. That's because they also have three unsigned free agents whom they would like to keep (Gerald Green, Humphries and Lopez), and the league puts a "cap hold" on the salaries of free agents to prevent teams from using chicanery to circumvent the cap. The hold for Humphries is $12,000,000, the hold for Lopez is $7,692,458 and the hold for Green $854,389. The league also adds a charge for empty roster spots, at the rock-bottom minimum of $473,604, figuring that eventually you intend to fill them in order to field a team. Add three "holds" to get the Brooklyn roster to 12 players, and that's another $1,420,8162 So right now the Nets have $76,159,802 on the books, and they can't do that -- again, the most they're allowed is $74,307,000. This isn't necessarily a problem -- if the combined salaries for Humphries, Lopez and Green are $18,694,045 or less, then everything is peachy. Alternatively, they could let Humphries walk and just spend on the other two. As for Kidd, the Nets would need to carve out another $1.9 million below to bring him aboard. But it gets really tricky when you try to make room for the $19,536,360 owed Howard. Even if the Nets use all three free agents in a trade for Howard and throw in Brooks, that takes $21,706,887 off their books. Add in Howard's money, and three roster "holds" to get the Nets back to 12 players, and they're adding $20,957,172 back on. In other words, it only cuts $749,715 from the Nets' books, and leaves them a heart-rending $1,103,807 shy of pulling off a Howard trade. Of course, all this is predicated on the figures that have been reported to date. Perhaps Williams opted to take less money to give the Nets a bit more wiggle room, but everybody is reporting that's not the case. Perhaps Teletovic's deal isn't quite for the full midlevel exception. Or perhaps the Evans deal doesn't go through. But as things have been reported, the Nets are a few ducats short of pulling off any Howard trade, let alone a good Howard trade that might actually entice Orlando. Brooklyn can't take back any other contracts, not even a Chris Duhon or Quentin Richardson-sized one. Because recently signed players can't be packaged in a trade for two months, the absolute best Brooklyn can offer is sign-and-trading their three free agents, Brooks, and three first-round picks. And I greatly doubt that trumps the other offers that will be coming Orlando's way. Even that sliver of hope goes out the window the second anybody signs Lopez to an offer sheet, which will preclude the Nets sign-and-trading him to Orlando. With Brooklyn also being capped out for the foreseeable future, it pretty much closes the door on Howard coming there as a free agent in 2013, which was his other end-game. In the end, though, the problem isn't with the extra $1.1 million, it's with the extra $20 million. When New Jersey had a ton of cap room, it appeared they could appease the Magic by taking a bunch of bad contracts off their hands in a Howard trade. That ship has now sailed, and as a result, so has much of Orlando's incentive to trade with the Nets. Even without Howard, a difficult dance also remains for the Nets. Getting Humphries, Lopez and Green to all re-up for a combined $18.7 million will be difficult, and it may force the Nets to let Humphries walk. Getting them to re-up for just $16.8 million and re-open the biannual exception for Kidd will be virtually impossible, which is probably why Kidd is now looking at Dallas and New York. And I'm not sure what imaginary exception they plan on using to get Ersan Ilyasova. Even after all that, the Nets will be filling the rest of the roster with training camp filler, offering only the rock-bottom minimum to second-round pick Tyshawn Taylor and two other roster players. So like I said, I hope Teletovic is good. His numbers from Europe are nice and it's possible he'll be replacing Humphries at power forward. Oh, and he's making it impossible to get Dwight Howard. Also a good read here.
DWill's signing has no bearing on the Dwight Howard trade. Because the Nets aren't losing capspace(he had a cap hold anyway) nor players. The Johnson trade mattered because the Nets gave up a 1st rounder(asset) and lots of expirings that they could've used to better match salaries. The Nets offer of Humphries(S&T), Lopez(S&T), Brooks, and however many crappy picks remains the same after this signing.
I thought about posting a thread about this, but I figure I'd ask it here, because it's somewhat related. What exactly is the "max?" Is it what Deron Williams got? Or is it something like 20 mil / year, or something?
They couldn't have waited until afterwards to sign Evans and the Euro because? Looks like King got a little too excited or has lost interest in Dwight.
The Nyets took the risk to acquire Dwill thinking he would not overlook that guaranteed money and they were right. DD
2012/13 Joe Johnson $19,752,645 Gerald Wallace $9,500,000 DWill $20,000,000? $49,252,645 The cap is about 70M? So 70% of your cap in 3 players?
Why not, they can always exceed the cap if they like, just got to pay the lux tax for it, which may be covered by their increase in TV money anyway. The cap is not really a cap, it is a semi deterent. DD
I think this would be obvious for most players. I remember an article was posted earlier this year where Jerry West was interviewed and he basically said he would call their bluff and not give in to demands. I'm pretty much in the boat that even though I have started to dislike Dwight, I still would not mind him on the Rockets. I would be willing to take the risk on him and call his bluff. I want to see how serious he is about leaving money on the table. At this point everything he says is an empty threat. I bet that's probably another reason why he opted in; he did not want to lose the extra $20-25M and he figured that maybe he could force his way to Brooklyn during the summer. I'm guessing he was letting the Nets buy some time and see if they could somehow put a decent package together. The Rockets don't have much going for them and no matter what they do, they will still end up a middle of the road team. Might as well roll the dice, lose some potentially good prospects and get a sure thing.
I totally agree, Dwight has already shown his hand by opting in, if we can get him, Morey should do it, and then put an extension down in front of him and say take it or leave it. DD
The Nets are relevant again The Hawks, Hornets, and Nets have brand new GM's that have accomplished more in less time than Morey
This says differently. New provision in the CBA http://t.co/dryzrLjh This is the first I've heard about this, but Hollinger knows more about the CBA than I do, so I'll take it till proven wrong.
I thought the lockout negotiations failed to turn the hard cap into a flex cap. I'm pretty sure hard cap is 100% solid. EDIT: Wtf. Why did I think the NBA had a hard cap? I'm 100% wrong. Lol.
