Whatever excuses you presented as facts that makes you feel better. More power to you. I dont count excuses as facts in my line of thinking though. excuses are not facts. They are excuses.
dont be a troll, keeps politics out of this forum. especaily if you libve intexas that voted for W 4 times
Some people blame the GM Some people blame the coach Some people blame the players What do they all have in common? Their favorite team is losing. I can never tell the difference between people hating losing and people getting upset with the team. "When did your opinion of Morey change?" -- is the real answer, when you lost faith/hope in the team being a contender?
Didn't have much of an opinion. Till the words "we have a trade" fell from Rick Buchers mouth. A number 8 in a deep draft for a pot of glue. Been a skeptic ever since.
My opinion of HIM hasn't changed. I am just no longer confident that the environment is right for him to do much. Of the players that are seemingly available, be it by trade or free agency, only one of them is a "franchise changer" imo and he won't even commit to anything past this season as of now. The environment seemed right with Atl selling off their pieces, but can't imagine they would get him this year with his contract expiring. What about Horford though? He is signed for 5 years, I am sure they are going to rebuild around him, but if they are interested in starting from scratch, maybe we can offer them something centered around Martin's expiring? Stars are hard to come by, you can't blame it on Morey. He does what he can with what he has. All he has is a mediocre-good team that gives him mid 1st draft picks. From there he has shown to be more than capable of drafting quality players. My only problem is he doesn't usually draft for our needs, i.e. we get a backlog of small pfs. Timing is everything, I am confident that if there is a deal out there to be made, Morey will find it. When he does, and we get our star, we have the perfect guy to add talent behind him. Just imagine Morey's picks with a young Yao and Tracy.
Here's the thing Why did Morey get Artest? Because he had a coach who said he could control Artest. RICK THE RULER Why? Because he had done it before in Sacremento Let's apply the Morey Rule of: SEE HE SUCKED WHEN HE LEFT SO MOREY TRADED HIM AT THE RIGHT TIME . . . . Instead let's give Rick the Ruler that kind of benefit Brooks, Landry, Wafer <-- best ball under Rick Can Rick get some of that credit too. Then of course. . he ran Rick off Rocket River If you don't have a superstar . . .maybe a superstar coach would have helped
Rick Adelman was and is a trur proffesional and a GREAT coach, so was JVG. Even after Morey dogged out JVG( and firing him over the phone). JVG took the firing with class and still recommended that Morey hire his protiege Tom Thibedeau as a replacement..
My opinion of Morey changed when he traded for Gasol (killed by Stern as everyone knows). At the time the plan was to then sign Nene to a near max contract. Just knowing he would have given Nene that much changed my opinion of him. There is no way in the world Nene is a max or near max player, none whatsoever.
Last offseason killed the dream for me. The Gasol trade and Adelman firing just brought me down. They didn't make the playoffs, but Rick's teams had great chemistry and a strong offensive identity. We just needed more talent, which I thought Morey could provide. Then the Gasol trade fell through and I found myself relieved. Everyone else bashed Stern, but I never saw a Gasol, Nene, Lowry combo as contenders. I couldn't believe that was Morey's master plan. Sure, we'd make the playoffs, but I thought he had set his sights higher. It's depressing knowing that our GM's endgame is to be a 5th seed every year.
Why do you think that was his endgame? I think Morey had to accept he was never going to get that top tier star, and tried to get a collection to replicate those Pistons teams of the past decade.
I dont believe for one moment that had everything fallen as planned, Nene would have been offered a near max contract. No way. He signed with Denver ultimately for 11.3M. I think our offer would have been about that or a bit less.
Because Gasol's window as a star is closing fast. We'd have two years, maybe three, to do anything with him before we'd have to rebuild all over again. Nene and Lowry are good players, but don't have the star power we need. If Gasol was the plan, we were never going to be contenders.
