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Okay, so now I see what direction we're going as a team...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dat Dude, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    And if the commisioner had less ability to execute, we'd already have a few big moves made.

    It's not like he's been sitting back reading his paper on the ****ter. I mean if the draft had gone down any other way, we'd have walked away with 2 top level rookies this year (imo, would have been MKG and Lamb).

    I'm just glad he's not throwing **** around just to "show" he's being productive, it's his non-fanpleaser-moves that I've enjoyed not seeing more than anything i.e. Joe Johnson to the Nets.
     
  2. psingh34

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    you say this like he has had options name one just one key FA since last year (when we have had salary space) that has wanted to come to houston and morey has not gotten him ....

    name one key FA in the nba that has wanted to go to ANY other team besides ny, miami, LA or stay with their own team ... heck chicago had cap space two years ago and came away with what? overpaid boozer ... knicks had cap space and had to overpay amare ... atlanta overpaid joe johnson (no nets are over paying him)

    would you rather morey have behaved like those teams and reached for a semi superstar and ended up overpaying?
     
  3. BamBam

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    Objection your Honor!.....you are leading the witness!
    Unless you have a crystal ball no one knows how that
    trade would have turned out.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Which big name Free Agent wanted to go to New Jersey before the Nyets just grabbed DWill from Utah and Wallace from Portland?

    There is a difference between TRYING and doing....Morey is in the "Trying category.....

    DD
     
  5. DaDakota

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    I knew it - and posted about it....Nene is an injury prone overated player.

    DD
     
  6. BamBam

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    The point is there was a trade in place....regardless of the players involved.
     
  7. psingh34

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    EXACTLY right!!!

    i would even include hibbert in that category .. i dont think he is a max player but portland will pay him that bc they are acting out of desperation.. i will be quite interested in seeing how much better hibbert is next year than asik (this is the same guy who averaged 9 more minuted than dalembert and had only 5 more points/ 1.8 more rebounds/ and 0.3 more blocks per game with an identical per 36)
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Yes true, and Dragic would have been a throw in...because the org is unable to recognize top tiered talent when it is sitting on it's own bench.

    DD
     
  9. Numero.Uno

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    Since you brought up efficiency, Lin had a +14.97 and had Dragic was +13.21. Plus, Lin shot slightly better than you mentioned from the field at .446 last year. So, basically, that means if each were to take 100 shots, Dragic would make a little more than one more shot than Lin. Or assuming they both averaged 15 shots per games that would equate to slightly less than half a point a game. Wow, now I see the huge separation.
     
  10. BamBam

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    Touche....
     
  11. dobro1229

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    You have no idea the offer that Morey was giving Dragic and his agent. Could very well have been "backup PG" earnings. Which is what Lin should be getting anyways. There is your direction right there, and tells you everything you want to know about how they view their situation at the PG spot. Lowry is the starter, and they are looking to fulfill the backup PG position.

    Should Morey start the bidding at 7 to 10 mil that Dragic is looking for when you already have an all-star calliber PG on your roster that isn't making nearly that amount? The Rockets obviously view Lowry as a similar talent when comparing the two players, and do not think that Dragic will be enough of a difference maker to make this team a contender overnight.

    So I dont really see what the big issue is. Either Dragic comes back to the table quickly to play ball with Houston after he finds out what other offers are out there, or he finds a team that is willing to pay a decent PG an All-star quality player salary. If the Rockets get him at the right price, he's an asset. If they overpay, he's now a liability.

    If the Rockets already had a foundation piece on their roster like a healthy Dwight Howard signed long term, then it makes sense to pay a little more to build around your star player, but the Rockets are in no position to make that kind of investment on a player that will not make this team a contender overnight.

    Sorry, but the direction is still the same. Assets vs. liabilities. Basic financial management. Rid yourself of liabilities, and collect as many assets as you can. You might not think that "process" works, but its the direction they continue to operate by.

    -Now, a little glimmer of hope for the clutchfans that want the Rockets to go young, it looks like you are getting your wish. Everyone the Rockets are targeting through the draft, or free agency are to be considered works in progress and have un-tapped potential as opposed to the teams that continue to pursue players like Steve Nash, or Ray Allen.

    The Rockets are showing no urgency to re-sign Camby(view him as more of a mentor), are actively shopping Martin and Scola, and have already traded Dalembert. The signs are there that the Rockets are going to continue to take on as many young prospects as they can and in the meanwhile look for "game-changer" trades for folks like Dwight Howard.

    Sounds like a direction to me.
     
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  12. FLASH21

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    That's exactly why we traded Brooks for him AND got a 1st round pick out of it. SMH how is that even an argument?
     

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