2012. Ignorant posters want results now Don't care about the process 2015. Same posters know all the players Because they are impossible to move. Quick fixes: are like erecting a tall building Without a solid foundation Will be lucky if it doesn't collapse Whatever ... ain't signing my name to that crap I just wrote
There is no trolling involved when you want your team to win. Those who like losing are the trolls when they constantly troll for the losing ways.
BRO BRO BRO WE ARENT INTERESTED IN EXCUSES, REASONING OR LOGIC. THIS IS A RESULTS BASED BUSINESS AND MOREY HAS SUCCEEDED IN MAKING THIS A SUCCESSFUL BUZNESS. WE DONT CARE IF IT IS NOT BECUZ OF HIM, RESULTZ ONLY PLZ.
Shouldn't you take the first step before talking anything related to be competitive? yes, the rockets needs to make playoffs and did not.
What logic? The logic to keep Morey for infinity regardless of his track record? Thats sounds like mediocre direction to me. Successful is empty seats? LMAO! Good logic there.:grin::grin:
Exactly, why would anyone still make excuses for Morey that this team did not make playoffs 3 years in a row while more than two third of other teams did? RESULTS ONLY PLZ.
Man, I still can't get over those poems. More people should try to write them. It may not make you look smarter, but it certainly does make you feel smarter about yourself. I know I certainly feel that way, despite how bad those efforts were.
His inability to land the biggest fish...could ultimately cost Morey his job...but there is no question in my mind that he has done the most with the little he has had to work with...(inability to tank, lack of available superstars, and players personal preferences) Bosh - Wanted to go where he had the best chance to win a title...why not join a team with james and wade...life is simpler...he would have been paid with the Rockets but...that wasnt his vision... Melo - demanded to be traded to the Knicks...and when Denver saw that he wasnt staying they did so...and got their man... Howard...has expressed this weird desire to want to play in Brooklyn...just wants to make a name for himself without a shadow of a prior "big man great" Each one of these players just wanted something that the Rockets couldnt change their mind on... Morey got rid of the Dawson trash...and managed to keep the team respectable when the foundation broke down...that it self was an achievement...Les didnt want a tanking team...he wanted a contender for the playoffs...Morey did his job...by building a contender for the playoffs...the Rockets were looking at selling playoff tickets...and then...the worst happened...they lost and kept losing...and nothing changed...lost confidence...and the rest is history... My only problem with morey was a lack of proper evaluation of his coaching talent...Rick Adelman was a HOF coach...if you fire him...you better find one with better credentials...McHale was an amazing player...but thats it..
Uh ohh.... You guys are really losing now. Oh well it happens at year 4 of the Morey plan with no results. Everyone can see it now. The cracks are forming. Better put those fingers before the water breaks it. LMAO!!! Well its off to look up on this Jeremy Lin rumor returning to the Rockets.
I agree with almost all of it, I liked RA as a coach (except on defense and we know defense is what ultimately wins most championships), and Kevin McHale certainly had some questionable coaching moments last year, but you're also overlooking the fact that he is one of the best big man coach out there, coming from the players themselves (Garnett, Love and Jefferson). And we hardly had 10 practices all season last year. So give it a little while longer before judging.
Someone needs to tell Les he knows as much about building a contender as he does about cooking a steak. Until then, it's on Morey.
DD has the perfect game plan when it comes to all players in the league: he'll say each one was awesome/sucks at the same time, and when one of his 1000 predictions go right he'll take all the credit and run away with it. OTH, if you call him out on the 99 that did go wrong he'll shrug and say he's just a stupid fan, he doesn't get paid to analyze players for a living so you shouldn't be up his grill for his wrong predictions.
We are saying similar things about the selections, but still different. My earlier posts covered a couple of topics. On the draft selections, I am agreeing that since we could not get a high draft pick we were looking at 'role players'. Where we disagree is that I am suggesting that extra attention (weight) should be given to role players that have the potential to be stars in an area where we have a need -- liked a Center from this draft class. I disagree that getting a Center is an easy thing. If that were the case we would have a really good one now. Even more than one really good one. I am also making the point that we should have a team philosophy where we could fit the Center into. And Asik doesn't appear to fit the style of our other players. If we resign Camby (which I hope we do), he fits our style. The original question was 'when did my opinion of Morey change'. My answer was 'with this draft' and I think I have covered the reasons why it changed.
NOT really. You expect us to ignore: 1) Les top down direction of not tanking 2) Morey built the complementary role players for our 2nd round playoffs, which we took Lakers to 7 games without TMac and half a series of Yao and was a real contender 3) Other than the cities already with superstars, or NY/LA, no other team has landed a superstar either 4) Tanking teams other than Oklahoma are still tanking teams 5) It took Oklahoma 5 years, and this is only year 2 post Yao Ming's salary coming off books. Yet nobody has patience. 6) TMac and Yao's injuries were out of Morey's control, nor could be predicted with certainty. 7) Morey has had arguable the best draft record vs draft position in the league since becoming GM 8) His trades have incrementally improved the team (again nobody else other than the above-mentioned got the superstars), he corrected mistakes quickly at little cost (except T-Will trade), and he has managed salary/salary cap superbly by not overpaying 9) No other team is able to give up as much as Morey in a rental for Dwight Howard, and still have a supporting cast that can help contend (that's why nobody else got the guts to do a rental - Lakers would want Dwight to sign an extension, and may get it by virtue of being, well, LA) 10) Before Morey put the supporting pieces together around Yao/T-Mac, RA didn't get the Rockets out of the first round either (and didn't have a record better than McHale the year the Rockets and him 'mutually decided to part ways') - so either Morey didn't improve the team or McHale did as good a job as RA 11) Morey is not ruthless. He had no need to cut T-Will after the trade deadline, but chose to do so to give him a chance to catch on with a team. T-Will now has a job in sacramento and a career past his first rookie contract. 12) Superstars shouldn't see Morey's treatment of T-Mac as a warning sign. The guy pretty much called a press conference to announce a season-ending injury to the world ahead of the trade deadline without consultation with team doctors. The corporate equivalent would be the China GM of McDonald calling a press conference to say McDonald is pulling out of China due to tough operating conditions, without discussion with headquarter CEO. And what did Morey do? Limit his minutes in a comeback (which proved wise, as T-Mac couldn't get back to reasonable health even a year later), and traded him to his preferred destination of New York. 13) Players Houston wants back actually do want to come back to Houston at equal salaries - Dragic, Camby, Scola, Lee and not everybody speaks poorly of McHale - Parsons, Dragic. The ones that have had problems either lost rotation minutes or starter status, or aren't the players we were looking to bring back anyway (Martin, Lowry, Chase - by the way, McHale made him a better player by getting his D to around average levels, something RA did not hold him accountable for). 14) Morey low-balls players in contract negotiations - as if paying more is better. Do you go to supermarket and see - Apple, 90 cents, and say Hey, I'll pay $1. Paying fair value for a desired player makes them an asset, overpaying makes them a liability. Do you guys really want to pay Gogi $10M and Courtney Lee $7.5M/yr? If not, then you're thinking in line with Morey. C'mon, some of you now say Scola was grossly overpaid and hard to move, yet Morey paid for him. 15) Every GM calls players assets Can't be bothered to go back and edit, and add more. But should be enough here But no matter what facts are presented, for some people, Morey would still be an EPIC FAIL, because he did not convince LES to tank. BTW, tell me an example of your recent presentation to your BOSS, where you convinced him/her that your company should be very bad for 5 years at least (maybe more, most likely), make a lot less money in the mean time, in the hope that you will be better down the line (but not guaranteed). I'd like to see you take the Discounted Cash Flow Valuation / Net Present Value to him, and get him to sign the dotted line and say, GOOD JOB BOY, I NEED TO LISTEN TO YOU MORE!!!
Threw a bunch of nothing against the wall hoping one of them will stick. Some of them are even excuses for his bad decisions. LOL! Actually most of them are excuses for bad decisions or non decisions. LMAO! God its getting bad for you guys. LOL!!!!!
